Originally posted by BlueMule
It's not a fact, darling.
It is a fact you have ignored that the studies you link categorically show that PSI does not exists.
The way it works in science is some experiments are positive, some are negative. No single experiment or handful of experiments can settle the
I am glad that you point out that there is a way science works. All the studies you link do not use science, they use statistical analysis.
They state that the studies are unrepeatable, this is not science. Results should be repeatable.
Also, Radin regularly post hocs results when confronted with criticism. Again, this is not science this is tweaking results in order to prove what you
want to find.
Again, this is not science.
Further more, the vast majority of the links you provide report CORRELATIONS. Correlations do not prove a cause. Your links make the assumption that
the correlations are caused by the phenomena they are searching for because the have found a correlation whilst searching. This is a biased
assumption, and a common one. This is not science.
So yeah, glad you know how science works!
Only when considering the entire body of parapsychological evidence as a unit, which has been accumulating for over a century, can one
get an idea of how overwhelmingly in favor of the psi hypothesis the massive body of evidence is. Not by isolating a few negative studies.
But why should I bother explaining something that should be obvious?
Dude, if you really think this is the first time I have debated this topic then you are even dimmer than the evidence of this thread shows.
I have gone over all the information you have linked. None of it, individually or as a "unit" shows anything other than a history of bias, statistical
"hyperbole" and a blatant disregard for the evidence arguing against the proposition that PSI and telepathy exist.
Let me show you again why you have been schooled time and time again by numerous posters on this thread:
Psychology, Parapsychology, and Neurobiology: Clarifying their Relations
mindset that the paradigmatic assumptions of science
will ultimately need to be revised to accommodate the
study of transpersonal and parapsychological phenomena
Wow, we need to change science because it doesn't agree with us!
Here is your problem in a nutshell Batman.
While there has been a tendency of researchers
(at least within the mainstream) to differentiate and
compartmentalize spiritual/transpersonal and parapsych-
ological data, there is growing theoretical and empirical
literature to support the integration of the two with
parapsychological data being subsumed as an emergent
part of spiritual development (e.g., Beauregard &
O’Leary, 2007; Braud, 2004; Griffin, 1997; Levin, 2001).
You need to realise that Science is not spirituality.
Religion deals with spirituality. Science deals with describing and understanding the material world.
When you can separate the two, your problem should be quickly resolved.
If you use science to prove PSI and Telepathy then you relegate it to being a material aspect of the world and thus it must be a material aspect of
the universe dependent upon the laws of nature. This means that it must be separated and not integrated from spirituality.
The link merely attacks science for being science whilst arguing it needs to integrate and accommodate religious beliefs into its paradigm.
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