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Teen legally known only as 'Girl' battles to use her own name

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posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 06:25 PM
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Blär sounds nice. I think you can use whatever name from nature. I think we need to control names further, not allow foreign names or names that can be considered gibberish.




posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 06:37 PM
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So, if you live in an English speaking country you can only give your child an English speaking name? That kind of thing?

You are in Sweden so I assume you'd only allow Swedish names.

Sorry if I mess something up I've been drinking.



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 06:38 PM
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I agree with a lot of posters here that parents can be absolutely moronic when naming their kids. You don't "own" your child, and when you stick him with an inappropriate name you think is cute, it's the child that has to live with the pain, not the parent. In some places it's almost required that you name your child something strange and off-the-wall. It's stupid. It made for a cute song, but I would never name my boy "Sue".

BUT

I am absolutely amazed at the number fo you who think the government should be in charge here.

The GOVERNMENT!!!??????

You have got to be kidding me! You go on and on and on and on about how terrible the government is, how it makes stupid decisions and endangers your very lives, how it takes away your freedoms and forces you to do things you don't want to do, then you turn around and say it's OK for the government to decide what you can name your kid????

Absolutely un-friggin'-believable. I'm completely amazed anyone would go there.



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 06:42 PM
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Originally posted by CaLyps0
reply to post by RedmoonMWC
 

Hell no f the government
I have the right to name my child anything i want
Its MY CHILD not theirs.

Actually, no, all US citizens are property of the US government. Literally. We are the collateral on the debt owed to the federal reserve when the government borrows money
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posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 06:53 PM
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I cannot see this becoming an issue in most countries. Please remember Iceland is tiny, with a very small population. I can understand why they want Icelandic sounding names, however I cannot understand why this particular girls name is refused (although it's a "male" name) and Elvis is being permitted.

A relative once upon a time moved to Iceland (before I was born), and to get proper status there he had to change is surname to a suitable Icelandic one (where females get their surnames from their mothers, and males from their fathers).

I do however think a lot of people should have made better choices before naming their kids... Luckily changing your name is no problem as an adult.



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 06:58 PM
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Yeah, but if some parent does want to give their kid some idiotic name like Worthless, Unwanted, or something else that we can unanimously agree is harmful and would end up screwing them over for life, or at least for the duration of their childhood, what should we do if there's nobody else around who can do anything about it? Should we just ignore it and let the kid grow up?

Just like so many other issues, it's not about giving up our freedoms and letting the government take control of our lives; it's about collectively deciding on minimum standards that people living in a supposedly civilized society should be able to expect and not letting them fall below those standards just because they happened to be born to #ty parents. It's about identifying things that we can all agree are problems, and then collectively implementing the solution through government.

And yes, the government is screwed up and corrupt in many ways, but it's not useless, and since we're going to be forking over a significant amount of the money we make whether we like it or not, we might as well take advantage of the things it can do to better the lives of everyone.
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posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 07:09 PM
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Originally posted by littled16
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I don't really agree with a government being able to stipulate what you can or cannot name your children but I think in rare cases sometimes someone has to step in and protect children from their own parent's stupidity. For instance, there were the parents who named their child Adolph Hitler. Imagine the harassment the child would experience growing up with THAT name. Over the years I have seen idiot parents name their children things that would assuredly violate T&C to mention the names here. Then there are parents who name their kids absolutely stupid names, not caring what will come because of these names in the child's future- they only care for their own twisted sense of vanity.

When I named my own children I thought long and hard about it, choosing names that would be "cute" enough when they were children but do not sound idiotic or embarassing now that they're grown, and will still be respectable when they are elderly. Some parents do not possess the wisdom to contemplate the long term effects of what they name their newborn children.



TV news listed the up and coming most popular names for the next year and one was Tweet.
People..........



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 07:13 PM
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Plenty of people asked him the meaning of his name growing up. Beyond that, being stuck with the name stupid seems like the exact thing that people are complaining about. It "labels" the kid for life.



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 07:25 PM
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I'm curious, In America, what right do our reprasentatives (public servants) have to dictate to the people what they can and cannot name their own child?

"Here is a list of Government approved names, choose one or CHANGE IT!" Sounds like FREEDOM to me!

Of course, this didn't happen in America. But I do recall a similar incident over the name Adolf.
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posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 07:27 PM
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I used to work at an underprivelidged children's camp during the summer in the Houston area, years ago as a teenager. The children from the inner cities were bussed into a rural area to go to camp for a week, and paid for by donation. The children that attended were about ninety percent black. I remember in particular, a little black girl, cute as a button and everyone at camp thought she was great. Her name was Secreete. That's right, Secrete is how it was pronounced. She attended with girls and boys named Janiqwa, Shaneeta, etc., you get the message. The thing is, is that the same kind of political idealogy defending the right for the government to control names, is the same political idealogy I saw defending their right to the "African culture".

Names do affect your opportunity in life, to an extent, although unlike a real disability, such as a missing limb, it is superficial. I have seen people missing limbs to go on to accomplish amazing things, so I suspect you can modify a given name and it will affect you much less


Come on, no person has a right to judge what you name the person you helped bring into the world.



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 07:32 PM
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So true !

Now to go find more kryptonite, to keep my child Kal-El from getting into things he shouldn't............





posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by schuyler
I agree with a lot of posters here that parents can be absolutely moronic when naming their kids. You don't "own" your child, and when you stick him with an inappropriate name you think is cute, it's the child that has to live with the pain, not the parent. In some places it's almost required that you name your child something strange and off-the-wall. It's stupid. It made for a cute song, but I would never name my boy "Sue".

BUT

I am absolutely amazed at the number fo you who think the government should be in charge here.

The GOVERNMENT!!!??????

You have got to be kidding me! You go on and on and on and on about how terrible the government is, how it makes stupid decisions and endangers your very lives, how it takes away your freedoms and forces you to do things you don't want to do, then you turn around and say it's OK for the government to decide what you can name your kid????

Absolutely un-friggin'-believable. I'm completely amazed anyone would go there.


You beat me to it. I too am also amazed how many people in this thread are so eager to give this "power" to government because people are too stupid to realize what they are doing to their child.

It seems like too many people accept government and its paper bureaucracy as a standard way of life. To begin with, an approved "list" by a government of what you can name your child? Wow.

Let's go even more basic.... "Papers" needed for your child? If you don't get your special government issued papers for your child then what? Your child is illegally living? The government can take your child?

People are all to willing to submit to government even in minor forms it is no wonder there are very few who aren't bound by red tape to rise above it.



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by Lulzaroonie
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It's bad enough that some parents name their children after cars or alcoholic drinks (Porche - Lambrini - Bailey), but I think if you're going to name you child something utterly stupid, then yes, I think the government should step in.


Actually those were people's names FIRST then they became the "car" - thats for 99% of car brands... like Ferdinand Porsche, Mercedes-Benz (Karl Benz and Mercedes Jellenik), Henry Ford, etc...

As for the drinks Baileys is from a member of the parliament sir James Bailey who had a very famous and historical hotel in which the name for the drink was based on.

So these are not brand names named to people, but people getting back (and rightfully in these cases) people's names that were given to brands.
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posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 10:10 PM
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Lol. Some people are just really stupid! IQ test should be required for parents.



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 10:25 PM
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Originally posted by artnut
I used to work at an underprivelidged children's camp during the summer in the Houston area, years ago as a teenager. The children from the inner cities were bussed into a rural area to go to camp for a week, and paid for by donation. The children that attended were about ninety percent black. I remember in particular, a little black girl, cute as a button and everyone at camp thought she was great. Her name was Secreete. That's right, Secrete is how it was pronounced. She attended with girls and boys named Janiqwa, Shaneeta, etc., you get the message. The thing is, is that the same kind of political idealogy defending the right for the government to control names, is the same political idealogy I saw defending their right to the "African culture".

Names do affect your opportunity in life, to an extent, although unlike a real disability, such as a missing limb, it is superficial. I have seen people missing limbs to go on to accomplish amazing things, so I suspect you can modify a given name and it will affect you much less


Come on, no person has a right to judge what you name the person you helped bring into the world.


Barack Hussein Obama seemed to do ok.

And let's not forget Fair Hooker, receiver for the Cleveland Browns.

Maybe the governments want to make sure everybody is vanilla and chocolate, average, so they can all think they are just above average, but not too special.



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 11:04 PM
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Originally posted by boymonkey74
I see no problem with it at all, It stops idiots calling their kids stupid names that they will only change anyway when they are older.

It has happened in the States too, for other reasons to.

BTW check out some of the names given in the states
my fave is Punch Me In The Face As Hard As You Can lol
(I know it is a piss take) here


www.smosh.com...



Granted, "Punch Me In The Face As Hard As You Can" is a stupid name but there are tons of other names I'll bet not found in the very small icelandic list of names people could use that would or should be fine.. Take Moon June and Dweezel Zappa for instance. ( brother and sister.. Frank Zapp'as kids) I think out there names.. as long as they are not as stupid as Punch Me In The Face As Hard As You Can, is just fine and should be encouraged.

Wanna name your kid Ziggy Stardust - no problem. I would even go for names like "President Zaphod of the USA" as a first name.



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 11:37 PM
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Originally posted by Lulzaroonie
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It's bad enough that some parents name their children after cars or alcoholic drinks (Porche - Lambrini - Bailey), but I think if you're going to name you child something utterly stupid, then yes, I think the government should step in.

It's not about censorship, its about child protection.
I couldn't imagine ever being ok with sending my kid to school with a name like "Game Boy" or "Field" or even "Monoxide" (FFS...) that is just messed up.
Its an act of protection for the kids against their dumbass parents.

If you want to give a kid a cute messed up nickname, be my guest. Don't make their legal name something you wouldn't say in front of your grandma, or something you can't pronounce upon looking upon how it's spelt.

The actor Jason Lee named his son Pilot Inspecktor. If I grew up with that name, I would sue the clothes off his back.

There was also the couple in America who named their child Dovahkiin so they could get loads of free stuff from the video game company when Skyrim came out... imagine naming your child something ridiculous just so you could get free stuff....
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Sorry....but I'm pretty sure the name Bailey doesn't come from an alcoholic beverage. Horrible argument.



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 11:40 PM
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Originally posted by RedmoonMWC

Mods if this is in the wrong section pleas move.

Really?
Is this what we in the U.S. and Canada are headed for?
A government agency telling us what we can and cannot name our children.


Could you imagine a child being named "The" ?

I agree....there needs to be some common sense when naming a child.

"Um is not an answer" - Judge Judy

Edit:

I wonder which 2013 new born will be named "Psy" for the hit single Gangnam Style? Think that will be a popular 2013 name?
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posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 11:54 PM
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I'll throw out some humor about a story a friend of mine told me regarding being "named." Not sure how true it is, take it at face value =)

So a Southerner with the first name "BJ" joins the army in time for WW2. When the sergeant is doing roll call, he sees "BJ" on the roster and asks the kid what "BJ" stands for.

BJ replies "it's B only, J only, it doesn't stand for anything.

The sergeant thinks to himself a bit and says "okay so Bonely Jonely it is!"

Basically since then, BJ had his name changed to Bonely Jonely, which happens in the military... though not on official paper



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 11:56 PM
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Second line first.
There are too many John's and Billy's.The state should just allocate a name for you at birth.





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