What you’ll see in the rebellion (against the government)

Originally posted by pauljs75


If something happened to trigger a true all-out civil war, a couple blown bridges, burning refineries, downed powerlines, and sapped pipelines, it wouldn't be long before offensive activities would come to a halt as defense of infrastructure would be the only way to maintain any technical advantage. New supplies wouldn't be getting shipped either. In other words, anybody fighting on behalf of an oppresive government would mostly be on guard detail "babysitting" their remaining stuff while worrying about what hotspot will break out next. If it ever got to that stage, they'd capitulate rather fast. (Nobody sane would want to fight a war of attrition against a more numerous and angry populace.) The supporting infrastructure and productivity needed for a responsive modern military would be gone at that point.

The only thing to watch out for would be UN, NATO, or countries like Russia and China acting as wildcards. That's the only thing that could disrupt the logistic breakdown in a full-out civil war and keep one side or another propped up. However foreign involvement would be rather high-risk, because if any special munitions go unsecured for too long or if those holding them change sides - they would provide a rather decent excuse for anyone out there wanting to use a rogue nuke. Then it goes from being a civil war to all out WWIII.

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Very apt analysis Paul. Nice reading. Thx.

John Carter

DID you all read the 'LINK' ? www.bob-owens.com...

This is a very apt and likely scenario. And it will be a time when those intent on Tyranny will themselves be hunted.
The simple fact of the matter is, a defenceless person has no ability to prevent his or her enslavement. Guns provide the great equalizer. Patriots will fight tyranny, make no mistake.
And just as those who propose tyranny are targeted, so will arise Leaders with the rights of the citizens as prescribed by our constitution. They will arise from within the Patriot masses. Failures like George Bush who wrongly stated that the Constitution was just a piece of paper, will be exposed for the power grabbers they are (against the will of the people) and all freedom loving peoples will unite against these elitists parasites. The world is becoming to small to hide them or their evil. You 1% and those corrupt people violating the publics trust, ............be afraid, be very afraid. And so you should be, your time is at hand.
I think most of us saw this speech by Kevin Costner in 'JFK'. It is apt despite those who would deny us our liberties
www.youtube.com...

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If the USA is ever fractured by civil war then that would be the best time for an enemy to do a pre-emptive attack (WWIII?).

Originally posted by CosmicCitizen
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If the USA is ever fractured by civil war then that would be the best time for an enemy to do a pre-emptive attack (WWIII?).

If you are talking about a nuclear pre-emptive strike from the Russians or Chinese, I don't think that is likely. They prefer a US that is not radioactive.

Iran, N.Korea or an Islamist group is another story. They simply don't think about things like that.

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The Russians or Chinese might consider an EMP blast however. That would make a boots on the ground invasion much easier.

The crack heads will be looting your house while your stuck in gridlock trying to get home.
Once the collapse occurs, the US government and defense agencies estimate they have a 72 hour window to activate all procedures to ensure continuity of government as well as a lock down of the general population as civilian unrest, riots and outbreaks of violence are anticipated.
theintelhub.com...

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Yes that was more of what I was thinking.....what good is the US if radioactive for 40-50 years?

I enjoyed that it was a rather colorful read. In my personal opinion i believe America could go in so many directions at this point. For all we know in a couple decades a new democracy could be standing by and for the people once again without a single drop of blood spilt. This is sadly unlikely though seeing that we are more easily swayed to pick up a pistol, then talk about how we can change things. We have been marching in the footsteps of the Romans, and if history repeats itself (often it does) it may just collapse under its own weight leading to a split of the country into large states. We may just end up getting involved with another war, sweeping all the calamity of our shaking political system under the rug for another decade or so. The one thing that is clear though is that the current system is not acceptable. A bigger case will be made over a Senator sexting, than over the millions made by our "leaders" under the table. Trust is something that America was built upon, and that is exactly what it has lost from it's people.

Originally posted by madenusa

The crack heads will be looting your house while your stuck in gridlock trying to get home.
Once the collapse occurs, the US government and defense agencies estimate they have a 72 hour window to activate all procedures to ensure continuity of government as well as a lock down of the general population as civilian unrest, riots and outbreaks of violence are anticipated.
theintelhub.com...

edit on 5-1-2013 by madenusa because: spelling

I live on a farm, so the crackheads and miscreants will have a hard time getting to me.

They prefer the low hanging fruit of city dwellers, mostly gunless city dwellers.

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we live off the grid map quest cant find us.
It took 911 police 45 min two find us.
The kids were playing with the phone.
Getting home will be the test,if all traffic stops wheres the close play ground bicycle time,lol
Dog eat Dog...

All gun confiscation programs start by chipping away at the outer barriers of gun ownership.
We will be talking about That little town that just wouldnt give up there Guns.
Just like Waco,TX .If only 2% of those gun owners refuse to submit ,and the feds attempt confiscation, they could just take there time.they know there out numbered in mass.
They can make little raids like they allready do on every day to day life.,just another day at work.
We will just watch on 2020 while the regulatory burden is indeed a penalty of sorts for being a law-abiding citizen.

Let's recognize Owning a Gun for what it is - a personal choice and not a crime. Similar to prostitution and gambling, there is a demand for illegal drugs &Guns that will be satisfied by some sector of the marketplace.
The criminal underworld operates very much on the basis of free enterprise.
Get your training, have your finger prints taken, pay the permit fees, and then wait for the licensed to be issued.

Next, conceal your weapon appropriately and go for a stroll down the street. Imagine that you're a criminal and not a law-abiding citizen.
This will demonstrate to you know just how easy it is for an armed criminal to go about his or her day-to-day business among other law-abiding citizens.

www.bob-owens.com... article expanding on his original that the op shared

hen I wrote What you’ll seen in the rebellion, I had no idea how widely read an article warning of the dangers of second Revolutionary War could become. It has been “shared” thousands of times in social media, and new readers and comments are pouring in constantly. Since the time it was written, state legislators in Illinois and New York have formally pressed for crushing gun control measures that would outlaw standard-capacity magazines, all semi-automatic handguns, rifles, and pistols, and even pump shotguns. There would be no grandfathering in these proposals, and no inheritance rights. A complete confiscation of these arms, “liberty’s teeth” as other have termed them, are the goal of these totalitarian governments. Legislators in other states are plotting similar measures. In Washington, DC, federal Democrats—goaded by figures in the poli-media calling for the murders of gun owners and politicians that would oppose their “common sense” statism—have pushed for a similar raft of legislation, supporting the criminalization and confiscation of the most common firearms in the United States and various accessories. The Vice President of the United States has signaled to the mayor of Boston (how historically apt) that the White House itself may attempt to circumvent Congress and attempt to outlaw these common firearms with an executive order. The people have responded to these threats by not merely buying up the firearms, magazines, and ammunition that might be affected by these proposed bans as they did in 1993/94 before the Clinton-era ban was pushed through, but by purchasing nearly every firearm of military utility of the past 100+ years. Ruger 10/22s and other common .22LR rifles have doubled in price when they can be found at all. Inexpensive Mosin-Nagants, originally designed in 1891 and typically found by the dozen in your average neighborhood gun shops, are nowhere to be found, and their ammunition is gone as well. U.S. citizens are preparing for war against their government by the millions. Americans aren’t “going Galt” in response to the push by would-be elites to surging statism. We’re on the cusp of going Häyhä.

so i think even the author was suprised by the reaction his first one got but he makes some good points in this one as well


a second snippet

I’ve done a lot more research (and considerable praying that I’ll turn out to be wrong) in recent days, based upon both history and evolving current realities. The situation isn’t as bad as we’ve feared it might be. It’s far, far worse. If the statists push through with their plan, we’re possibly looking into a nation of a thousand Sarajevos and Groznys where a war will rip this nation to shreds and cause a horror from which we may never recover. If you aren’t familiar with these analogies, allow me a moment to explain. Once one of the most tolerant and ethnically-integrated cities in the world before the break-up of Yugoslavia, Sarajevo suffered the longest siege in modern military history, lasting 3 years, 10 months, 3 weeks and 3 days. The long and short of it is that the Serbs attacked Sarajevo with modern military weapons that included artillery, anti-aircraft guns, tanks, mortars, rockets, and the other nasty toys of a modern military in the possession of their 18,000 man army. Opposing them were roughly 70,000 poorly-armed Bosnian soldiers and militiamen armed with a hodgepodge of small arms including World War-era rifles, AK-47s, and hunting and formal target rifles. The Siege of Sarajevo was a conflict of a heavily-armed but numerically inferior Serbian force against a lightly-armed but numerically superior Bosnian force. It became a sniper’s war, where innocent civilians bore the brunt of the brutality, terrorism, starvation, and death.

i figured i should post this part as well as its one of the more impressive incidents of insurgents/partisans resisting a siege for over 3 years by people with advanced military hardwear and still giving about as good as they got it

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Both so called parties will go along as will the courts. Any free man who refuses to disarm will be a criminal, which is just their intent.Like termites slowly chewing away at the wooden skeleton of a home, anti-gun proponents start small and end by destroying the entire freedom of choice.
Anyone who believes Feinstein’s legislation will begin and end with AR-15’s and AK-47’s is living in fantasy land.

Rebellion begins with holding those we have elected accountable to their constituency. No one in this country holds public office without having been elected to that office.

The responsibility of the American public does not end on election day.

Exercising the rights of the people, demanding that our representation keep we the people as their focus and hold true to their oath. Protecting and defending the constitution is what they all swear to.

Failure to properly represent the people and the public trust is cause for dismissal through the election process.

You can not effect any change from the couch, you have to be involved in the things that concern your way of life and the peace and safety of your family, friends and neighbors.

The system is in place to control the federal government, we the people have the power. Too many just sit and complain how their rights are being stripped but never do any thing more than just complain. A coalition is needed, involvement in local politics is needed.

If you elect someone to represent you in congress then you better make damn sure that they represent you and not the highest bidder.

Want special interests out of the process then demand it from the people you elect to represent you.

Until then make sure that we are electing constitutional county sheriffs, they are the last line of defense.

We the people in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice and insure domestic tranquility. Provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity do ordain and establish this constitution for the United States of America.

Notice the words in bold, (form, establish, insure, provide, promote, secure, do.) These require action, attention accountability. Be involved.

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The law-abiding, legal gun owners of the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas, would also bear witness to the savagery of which those in uniform are capable.

“Few Americans realize that on February 28, 1993 when Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (“BATF”) agents in National Guard helicopters zoomed in on the Branch Davidians’ church and home, Mount Carmel Center, they did so with guns blazing, like Americans raiding a Vietnamese village in that far off war….These agents shot wildly and threw grenades at the building for more than an hour, even as Davidians called “911″ to beg for a ceasefire….For weeks the FBI sabotaged negotiations through lies, threats and insults, destruction of property, shining of bright lights, blaring of loud music and violent sounds, and terrifying helicopter overflights and fake tank rammings….Their goal was to destroy the building and its damaging evidence, even if that meant the massacre of dozens of men, women and children, all witnesses to the brutal attack….On April 19, 1993, the FBI used its tanks systematically to turn Mount Carmel into a lethal fire trap. Tanks collapsed the trap door leading to the underground tornado shelter and all three staircases. Tanks rammed a concrete room sheltering dozens of Davidians until the ceiling collapsed, killing women and children before the fire. Long booms saturated the building with flammable gas, probably mixed with flammable solvents…Attorney General Janet Reno and the Justice Department were not content with murdering 82 Davidians, 61 of them women and children. They were intent upon prosecuting and punishing the few survivors whose “crime” was defending themselves against an unprovoked paramilitary assault.”
This will be a everyday news report if our Government gets there way.