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Originally posted by pauljs75
If something happened to trigger a true all-out civil war, a couple blown bridges, burning refineries, downed powerlines, and sapped pipelines, it wouldn't be long before offensive activities would come to a halt as defense of infrastructure would be the only way to maintain any technical advantage. New supplies wouldn't be getting shipped either. In other words, anybody fighting on behalf of an oppresive government would mostly be on guard detail "babysitting" their remaining stuff while worrying about what hotspot will break out next. If it ever got to that stage, they'd capitulate rather fast. (Nobody sane would want to fight a war of attrition against a more numerous and angry populace.) The supporting infrastructure and productivity needed for a responsive modern military would be gone at that point.
The only thing to watch out for would be UN, NATO, or countries like Russia and China acting as wildcards. That's the only thing that could disrupt the logistic breakdown in a full-out civil war and keep one side or another propped up. However foreign involvement would be rather high-risk, because if any special munitions go unsecured for too long or if those holding them change sides - they would provide a rather decent excuse for anyone out there wanting to use a rogue nuke. Then it goes from being a civil war to all out WWIII.
Originally posted by CosmicCitizen
reply to post by johncarter
If the USA is ever fractured by civil war then that would be the best time for an enemy to do a pre-emptive attack (WWIII?).
Originally posted by madenusa
The crack heads will be looting your house while your stuck in gridlock trying to get home.
Once the collapse occurs, the US government and defense agencies estimate they have a 72 hour window to activate all procedures to ensure continuity of government as well as a lock down of the general population as civilian unrest, riots and outbreaks of violence are anticipated.
edit on 5-1-2013 by madenusa because: spelling
so i think even the author was suprised by the reaction his first one got but he makes some good points in this one as well
hen I wrote What you’ll seen in the rebellion, I had no idea how widely read an article warning of the dangers of second Revolutionary War could become. It has been “shared” thousands of times in social media, and new readers and comments are pouring in constantly. Since the time it was written, state legislators in Illinois and New York have formally pressed for crushing gun control measures that would outlaw standard-capacity magazines, all semi-automatic handguns, rifles, and pistols, and even pump shotguns. There would be no grandfathering in these proposals, and no inheritance rights. A complete confiscation of these arms, “liberty’s teeth” as other have termed them, are the goal of these totalitarian governments. Legislators in other states are plotting similar measures. In Washington, DC, federal Democrats—goaded by figures in the poli-media calling for the murders of gun owners and politicians that would oppose their “common sense” statism—have pushed for a similar raft of legislation, supporting the criminalization and confiscation of the most common firearms in the United States and various accessories. The Vice President of the United States has signaled to the mayor of Boston (how historically apt) that the White House itself may attempt to circumvent Congress and attempt to outlaw these common firearms with an executive order. The people have responded to these threats by not merely buying up the firearms, magazines, and ammunition that might be affected by these proposed bans as they did in 1993/94 before the Clinton-era ban was pushed through, but by purchasing nearly every firearm of military utility of the past 100+ years. Ruger 10/22s and other common .22LR rifles have doubled in price when they can be found at all. Inexpensive Mosin-Nagants, originally designed in 1891 and typically found by the dozen in your average neighborhood gun shops, are nowhere to be found, and their ammunition is gone as well. U.S. citizens are preparing for war against their government by the millions. Americans aren’t “going Galt” in response to the push by would-be elites to surging statism. We’re on the cusp of going Häyhä.
i figured i should post this part as well as its one of the more impressive incidents of insurgents/partisans resisting a siege for over 3 years by people with advanced military hardwear and still giving about as good as they got it
I’ve done a lot more research (and considerable praying that I’ll turn out to be wrong) in recent days, based upon both history and evolving current realities. The situation isn’t as bad as we’ve feared it might be. It’s far, far worse. If the statists push through with their plan, we’re possibly looking into a nation of a thousand Sarajevos and Groznys where a war will rip this nation to shreds and cause a horror from which we may never recover. If you aren’t familiar with these analogies, allow me a moment to explain. Once one of the most tolerant and ethnically-integrated cities in the world before the break-up of Yugoslavia, Sarajevo suffered the longest siege in modern military history, lasting 3 years, 10 months, 3 weeks and 3 days. The long and short of it is that the Serbs attacked Sarajevo with modern military weapons that included artillery, anti-aircraft guns, tanks, mortars, rockets, and the other nasty toys of a modern military in the possession of their 18,000 man army. Opposing them were roughly 70,000 poorly-armed Bosnian soldiers and militiamen armed with a hodgepodge of small arms including World War-era rifles, AK-47s, and hunting and formal target rifles. The Siege of Sarajevo was a conflict of a heavily-armed but numerically inferior Serbian force against a lightly-armed but numerically superior Bosnian force. It became a sniper’s war, where innocent civilians bore the brunt of the brutality, terrorism, starvation, and death.