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posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 06:42 AM
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A key part of the macro agenda of the corrupt elite has been and continues to be the destruction of the U.S. Constitution. There are many theories and wild ideas what really will happen the day Obama and his cronies tries to eradicate the remainder of the bill of rights (the ten amendments in the United States constitution).

The New York Times Op Ed by Louis Michael Seidman, a constitutional law professor at Georgetown University, is perhaps a hint of what is coming and was quite unthinkable press material 15-20 years ago..

Perhaps this article by Bob Owens gives you a realistic scenario of things that will happen once this corrupt elite, whom lost sight of reality, allows congress and the white house to play out their wet dream against the collective will of the American people:



Link here.

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posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 07:04 AM
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That was a very interesting read.

Thanks for posting.



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 07:17 AM
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"Freedom exists where the government fears the people...." Thomas Jefferson



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 07:33 AM
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interesting read indeed!
tell me, what do you think would/should or could happen if the US Gov unleashed its military in such circumstances against its own people?

doing exactly what it 'fights against' in other countries abroad when governments/dictatorships attack their own civilians?

interesting



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 07:48 AM
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Originally posted by raskadawg73
interesting read indeed!
tell me, what do you think would/should or could happen if the US Gov unleashed its military in such circumstances against its own people?

interesting


I think Bob Owen gives a rather realistic answer to your question. If history has taught us anything it is that any government anywhere on this planet has never hesitated to use its military against its people if such government was dominated by a tiny elite hell bent in promoting its own agenda and not the collective will of its people.

This happened in ancient Greece and Rome. Nazi Germany and of course communist russia during 1917-90´s, Chile, Iran (many times), Spain (during ww2) and greece during the 70:ies.

US is not free from such a coup by a shadow government and its military industrial complex buddies that needs that possibility in order to sell and profit from endless weapon manufacturing that are used in its endless war-policy against and never ending supply of new dangerous "terrorists". Eisenhower saw this and warned against it in his famous speech. But who listened and acted accordingly. No one (of importance that is).

To order hard drilled units of 19-20 year old boys to shoot on the US populace has never been a problem for any government. The chain of command is a deeprooted mind tool in the military and the generals whom use it, does so on the behest of their rulers. The shadow elite behind every ruler whom enjoys the little power he has, to play president or king without loosing too much face.
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posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 07:57 AM
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Your article didn't take into consideration UN troops, or Mercenary's from other Countries being used. I would think the UN would be all over a situation like this, to "help" our Country do away with guns.

Nice read anyway John...


S&F



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 07:59 AM
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Or it could happen this way...www.keepandbeararms.com...


For decades I have heard gun owners claim that the government would never be able to confiscate our firearms because the government would lose too many men. The implication being, of course, that gun owners would actively resist confiscation, even to the point of shooting back. But I believe this thinking is outdated and doesn’t align very well with reality. But before you tell me how big your honor guard in Hell will be when that day comes, let’s think about how the government could really do it.

Suppose, for the sake of argument, the government bans all civilian possession of firearms at the end of this month. Congress passes a total ban and the President cuts his own re-election throat by signing it. Gun owners get some grace period to turn them in, even beyond the deadline, without being charged with a crime. If we use Australia and Britain as examples there will still be a significant number of firearms that are not turned in. Some estimates put the Australian turn-in at less than 25% and the British faired only about 28%. But Australians and the British have long been used to obeying almost every gun control law. Not so the Americans. When laws are passed that we don’t like, we bite. We scratch. We vote. So here we sit after the guns have been collected and the amnesties have run out. Now what? Send out the personnel carriers, swat and shock troops to seize the guns from those militia “terrorists” who refused to turn them in? Don’t be silly.

The government has lots of records about you. If you purchased a firearm since 1968, chances are that they have some record of it somewhere. Most likely, it will take quite some time for them to compile all the serial numbers of “surrendered” guns (surrendered essentially at gunpoint) and cross off the ones you turned in. It’ll take more time for them to attempt to “clean up” their data. Say, about two years, maybe three. Add to that the hordes of people keypunching in hundreds of thousands of sales and registration records from hundreds of gun stores forced out of business. At some point the government decides they have something approaching a “good” database of unaccounted-for guns.

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posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 08:07 AM
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Interesting scenario, too. But,

the President cuts his own re-election throat by signing it.

here's the rub. He doesn't have to worry about doing anything that will harm his re-election because he cannot run again anyways. It doesn't matter if his approval rating gets into the negative numbers, his campaigning days are over. He can do what he wants now and doesn't have to worry if it's popular or not.

On that note, I find it interesting the way he hauled butt back to Hawaii and let the robosigning pen take care of his presidential duties. So, according to the Op's linked article, he's now out of harm's way so to speak in the event that people begin to uprise in the next few days because of something, maybe gun confiscation, that is in the bill that just passed that the Congressmen didn't even get the time to read nor the public. It was stated a few years back that the public would have three days to read all bills before they were voted on. Convenient that this one came down the pike while everyone was drunk and ringing in the new year.



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 08:35 AM
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Yeah, i caught that too.

It must have been written during obamas first term.



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 08:45 AM
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If, and I mean a big IF, what you're saying comes true,
And your scenario is eerily reminiscent of Nazi Germany...

Then WE the people deserve every tyrannical law they pass.
If we don't stand up for our rights and obligations as a country...
We deserve to get trodden upon and ridiculed.
We deserve the garbage they spew at us.
And we deserve nothing but to be slaves.

Our fight still remains within our hearts and souls.
The fight for our very existance hangs in the balance of true patriots.
But we must actually believe that what they are doing is wrong!
The people must turn off the entertainment and turn on the truth.
Every single one person who allows this to happen without a fight...
...well they get what they deserve.







posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 08:46 AM
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I agree.
I still don't understand why he went back to Hawaii. I suppose the weather is a bit wrong for golfing around DC this time of year. One thing we should demand as citizens is that they do away with the robosigning pen. We see how much damage it did to homeowners facing possible foreclosure. It basicly helped the banks steal homes by helping them skirt the laws put in place. I can imagine how Big O's robopen helps him do the same thing. Did he even read the bill before he left for Hawaii? I doubt it.



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 09:17 AM
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Originally posted by Afterthought
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Interesting scenario, too. But,

the President cuts his own re-election throat by signing it.

here's the rub. He doesn't have to worry about doing anything that will harm his re-election because he cannot run again anyways. It doesn't matter if his approval rating gets into the negative numbers, his campaigning days are over. He can do what he wants now and doesn't have to worry if it's popular or not.

On that note, I find it interesting the way he hauled butt back to Hawaii and let the robosigning pen take care of his presidential duties. So, according to the Op's linked article, he's now out of harm's way so to speak in the event that people begin to uprise in the next few days because of something, maybe gun confiscation, that is in the bill that just passed that the Congressmen didn't even get the time to read nor the public. It was stated a few years back that the public would have three days to read all bills before they were voted on. Convenient that this one came down the pike while everyone was drunk and ringing in the new year.


He can not do what he wants ever. This why the gun grab fantasy is just that a fantasy spread to spur gun sales. Since most Amricans just believe any neat picture with writing they see on the internet it is a pretty effective marketing tool. And that is just what all of it is. Our Government has a system of checks and balances. Anything short of a constitutional amendment will not and can not take guns. Now people can debate what about military style weapons and what place they have and in the end the courts will figure it out. Of course do not let reality effect your lapping up of go spend money on more guns propaganda. As always it is about the money.



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 09:24 AM
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If they did try to take them, people would shoot back. If you think that is outdated go to a bar, grocery store, or where ever and ask people how they view law enforcement.

If the UN tried to "help" they would be shot first followed up by some "just in case" shots.


This is NWO porno.....just retarded. Not in the US. Get over it, it is a fantasy.



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 09:32 AM
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What seems to be missing is this. Both houses, their district offices, and everything affiliated with them would be effectively excommunicated. No more internet or telephones or tv's. Any dissenting newspapers, excommunicated. Shadow government or not, surrounded and contained. They are grossly outnumbered by men and women who are not only typically military but are current strategists. The numbers have not lied on where the people stand on this.

Have you ever heard the dog that barks the loudest doesn't bite? Who is being loud? Who is being very quiet? The people are surprisingly being very prudent. We on ATS talk about the sheeple and yada yada. It is more of a still. Even those that do t know what is going on will tell you there is something felt in the air. Perhaps winds unchanged. 'll rather than of change. Strong winds.

America is full of a lot of people whose parents and grandparents came from oppressed countries and have instilled their descendants a sixth sense. My great grandfather even in Alzheimer's never stopped talking of the black and tans. Those who never been dragged or beaten in front your wife children or neighbors can't imagine the hostility. Those who have learned to move to America. Arm and never disarm.

Anything Federal seems toxic. Once again State's Rights comes into play. I don't think the House and Senate are completely stupid. They froze a pay raise. Could b a good sign, listen to the people. Obama attempt a pay raise bribe. Who is he? Mephistopheles?



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 09:58 AM
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Oh, the courts will figure it out! Yeah. I guess you haven't heard that a judge has ruled that Obama can keep on killing Americans with drones and not have to reveal anything to anyone.
www.reuters.com...



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 10:58 AM
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Perhaps it is, perhaps it is not. I find this soldiers protest on CNN rather articulate;

Senator Dianne Feinstein,

I will not register my weapons should this bill be passed, as I do not believe it is the government's right to know what I own. Nor do I think it prudent to tell you what I own so that it may be taken from me by a group of people who enjoy armed protection yet decry me having the same a crime. You ma'am have overstepped a line that is not your domain. I am a Marine Corps Veteran of 8 years, and I will not have some woman who proclaims the evil of an inanimate object, yet carries one, tell me I may not have one.

I am not your subject. I am the man who keeps you free. I am not your servant. I am the person whom you serve. I am not your peasant. I am the flesh and blood of America.

I am the man who fought for my country. I am the man who learned. I am an American. You will not tell me that I must register my semi-automatic AR-15 because of the actions of some evil man.

I will not be disarmed to suit the fear that has been established by the media and your misinformation campaign against the American public.

We, the people, deserve better than you.

Respectfully Submitted,

Joshua Boston
Cpl, United States Marine Corps
2004-2012

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posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 11:59 AM
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Yeah I liked his letter as well. It was a good read. I wonder if he has gotten a response yet, it has been a few days since he sent it. I hope he doesnt get a generic response from her staff.



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 02:35 PM
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Something is missing. The part about the rebellion targeting the United Nations and all other globalist regimes and figures, after all, they are the ones instigating all of this "change"!



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 02:54 PM
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There are outfits like Blackwater...sic Academi....that would possibly contract this job.......Since Monsanto owns them, i assume they have more money backing them than most superpowers......
With 100,000 mercinaries possibly available, to start, the "project" might be carried out with sufficient brutality and Psyops.....
Remember, only the tip of the spear has to deliver the brutal shock and awe that leaves defeated demoralised people in its wake.....
Breaking these mercs into raidng units, and backing them up with softer federales....could take a lot down piecemeal over a wide area.....
All through the "Amnesty" these mercs would be taking down gun stores and wholesale distributors etc.....
They would meet any resistance with lethal force and the lesson would not be missed by Joe the Plumber......
With federal resources, and LEOs these shock troops may be all thats required....that and very efficient Psywar tactics.



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 03:36 PM
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They are already taking away guns, a little bit at a time. Legislation has been chipping at the "shall not be infringed" part since the 2nd amendment was written. When police break down doors and find any crimes all guns on the property are seized and (usually) destroyed.

American gun owners are the largest standing free army on the face of the earth, the "teeth" behind the Republic.

I don't see them trying to take every bodies guns in any "sweeping" manner. It would create a situation like in Syria right now. Cities being destroyed as rebels seek to overthrow the Government. The difference being the rebels here would be from inside the country, not without.





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