Curious to hear points of view on Home Invasions from Anti-Gun population., page 4


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reply posted on 4-1-2013 @ 08:05 PM by cavtrooper7
reply to post by Byrd



I am a professional 6 years in the Cav as an expert marksman.A life time of gun handling.
My skills are up to handling guard duty.


reply posted on 4-1-2013 @ 11:27 PM by okiecowboy

Your family members are much more at risk from having a gun than from someone breaking in and attacking them-unless you live in an inner-city ghetto.
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post by CB328


Really??? And what proof do you offer to back that up with?


If someone tries to break in here I will call 911, then if they're not big I will beat them, if they are then I will shoot them (but I am definitely for gun control).


So your saying if they are too big to fight then you will shoot them but you want to give up ypur right to have a gun??? Makes perfect sense


reply posted on 5-1-2013 @ 08:14 AM by stupid girl
Originally posted by badgerprints
I had a very anti-gun girlfriend who was unaware of what an evil, sinister gun nut I am. One day I disassembled a pistol in a box and then introduced her to the pistol one piece at a time. I also showed her the parts of a disassembled round. She was curious about the individual pieces and as I explained what they all did she would pick up the next. We put the gun together over the course of an hour and she looked at me and asked.
"Do you want to shoot it?"
I said no.
She asked me about it later so I took her to shoot.
She had a ball.

She still talks the party line around her left wing friends and her new husband (not me) who is also anti gun.
When she's in my neighborhood and I have time she goes shooting with me.
She still says she's anti-gun but I think she's conflicted.


That's awesome.
My husband & I enjoy many firearm sports with each other. It's one of our favorite "dates"...lol. Go to the range & talk some smack to each other, flirt, pick on each other, then go out to eat & have a couple beers, come home to our 7, 5 & 1 year old babies. We've been very happily married for over 10 years

I'm a country girl who grew up with guns in the home and it was just never a big deal back then. My Pappaw gave me an old .22 pistol when I got a car at 16 and told me to keep it under my seat (next to the chunk of sassafras root he also gave me to "keep odor out of the cab"...lol) and to never touch it unless I needed to use it, and the only reason I should ever use it was to shoot someone dead. What he meant was, guns are not toys and the only reason you should ever pick one up is because the only choice you feel like you have to save your own life is to take someone else's.
I was in high school in the early 90's in an area that was near rampant gang activity. Shootings and carjackings were almost an everyday thing. Thankfully, the only time I ever had to touch that gun, other than when he would take me out to the pea patch to practice shooting it, was after I started college and got a new car.


reply posted on 5-1-2013 @ 08:30 AM by frazzle
Originally posted by CB328


is it worth a family members life to risk that the police can make it in time?


Your family members are much more at risk from having a gun than from someone breaking in and attacking them- unless you live in an inner-city ghetto.

If someone tries to break in here I will call 911, then if they're not big I will beat them, if they are then I will shoot them (but I am definitely for gun control).


Woman shoots alleged home invader in Walton County
Jan 4,2013
www.myfoxtampabay.com...
"The woman said that the man went to his vehicle and returned with a crowbar. The man then forced his way inside and rummaged through the home.

The woman grabbed a revolver fled into a crawlspace with her children.

When the man opened the crawlspace door, she fired six shots with her .38 revolver, hitting the man several times.


Sometimes a gun in the hand is better than a 911 operator on the phone.


reply posted on 7-1-2013 @ 02:19 PM by TruthMax
reply to post by FirstCasualty



While I appreciate your wish for a society that doesn't require you to harm someone for the sake of your own safety, I have some simple conflict with this.

Humanity has, and presumably always will have, members that will do harm to others for their own gain. History has given us no reason to believe that this will ever change. I can't imagine the trauma you experienced in your situation... I would point out however, that banning a weapon or substance does not ever, in any case in history, remove it from the hands of those who desire it. As long as it is produced or manufactured, someone who isn't intended to have it, will still have it. This is fact historically and presently.

Drugs are illegal, yet anyone who wants them can get them with relative ease. Now, the only people who have drugs are, by definition, criminals. So you have violence that is associated with drugs, just as you had massive mobster violence during Prohibition. When is the last time you knew of someone killing someone else intentionally over a transaction of alcohol? When you make something illegal, the criminal enterprise will profit and violence will occur because of it. Do people die of DUI's? Sure, but the widespread crime and violence of Prohibition overshadows these numbers many times - enough so that Prohibition was recalled.

I have a handgun safe bolted between my headboard and mattress with fingerprint security. Our house was built with safety in mind such that my kids bedrooms are near our bedroom, separate from the rest of the house with a hallway and a door. If my alarm goes off at night, I have a clear shot at the intruder, as well as the high ground.

There were a small number of home invasions in the suburban town next to mine and the police took nearly 10 minutes to respond from the time the call was dialed. By this time, the intruders (armed with baseball bats) had nearly beaten a 14 year old boy to death and began raping his mother. When sirens were heard, they made a successful run. They hit 4 houses and were never caught. Should we ban baseball bats, or equip law-abiding citizens with the means protect themselves and their children?

If guns were ever successfully banned and completely eliminated (which my prohibition example and many others show is impossible), criminals would use another choice of weapon. So I would be left fighting 4 men with bats in my living room with my own bat. Banning items doesn't work - it simply puts the items only in the hands of those who would misuse them for personal gain. As long as these people exist, the need to protect ourselves with deadly force will as well.

-Max


reply posted on 7-1-2013 @ 02:26 PM by TruthMax
reply to post by Xtrozero



I couldn't agree more. The fact is, the police were created to respond to crimes and conduct a lawful investigation. They are NOT a personal protection organization.

Furthermore, I agree on the issue of martial arts. If a 6'5, 250lb man broke into my house unarmed while I wasn't home, my wife wouldn't stand a chance. Disarming the criminals isn't going to happen anymore than the government was able to remove alcohol from the criminals during Prohibition. It would only remove them from people like my friends and family and the 1-5 crazies who take their parents' unsecured weapons on shooting sprees every few years.


reply posted on 7-1-2013 @ 02:28 PM by xedocodex
reply to post by zayonara



You can plan all you want, doesn't mean it will help you. Unless you are standing guard 24/7 armed at all entry points of your house, if someone wants badly enough to harm you or your family, they will find a way.

I choose not to live in paranoia and fear, that is my plan.


reply posted on 7-1-2013 @ 06:36 PM by zayonara
reply to post by xedocodex



It's in assumption that people with weapons live in parnoia and fear. I personally don't think myself or my family as a target either. I don't think anyone is out to get us. I always just assume that random attack is possible and it is also possible to try to defend. Before a road trip, you check tire pressures, check the fuel gauge, check traffic, wear a seatbelt, look both ways before you cross...etc. It's all the same thing to me. Not paranoia.
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reply posted on 7-1-2013 @ 07:47 PM by cavtrooper7
reply to post by zayonara



Then that may hold some insight into your error.Sure just waltz around with headphones on,nothing will happen It's all cool.
I hope you never go anywhere unsafe......but wait,You are SPACIFICALY who they want to harm,someone who has no attention span IS a target for these pukes.
But please,don't EVER take my word for it.
I'm a knuckle dragger,I'm not paranoid, I'm skilled. And People like YOU aren't capable so I have to be able to defend myself AND sweet little you when bad guys show up.
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