Lawyer says 3 shooters were involved at Sandy Hook.

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posted on Jan, 2 2013 @ 08:43 PM
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Got me.
I guess I meant the Official Story written 3 weeks before the shooting.

They may have changed a few things or gotten rid of a couple of the characters.

I'm sure as usual, Hollywood will make a mess out of it. We'll see.

Edit: I'm just a little surprised Disney hasn't boughten the rights to this yet.
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posted on Jan, 2 2013 @ 08:59 PM
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In the over head video from the helicopter there are two men running from the school. One lays down to hide and the other continues on past him and isn't seen again. You can see it in the video. I would like to know more about the one that laid down and was caught, but I am even more curious about the one that ran past him and kept going.



posted on Jan, 2 2013 @ 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by TsukiLunar
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For a government controlled conspiracy they sure are letting a lot of "hints" slip out for conspiracy theorist to "catch".

So let me get this straight. The government is so good at hiding events that they can commit atrocities in broad daylight, but not good enough to fool internet posters?


They are counting on people like you to immediately discredit any "hints" that slip out. Also why would they care what slips out anyway? It's not like something will be done about it. They lie get caught and get away with it 99 % of the time.



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posted on Jan, 2 2013 @ 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by TsukiLunar
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For a government controlled conspiracy they sure are letting a lot of "hints" slip out for conspiracy theorist to "catch".

So let me get this straight. The government is so good at hiding events that they can commit atrocities in broad daylight, but not good enough to fool internet posters?


Well, I'm not so sure first of all it would be fair to call any potentially *synthetic* events-- government controlled--, it should be safe to say that alot of so called *terrorism* (violence for political change) is enacted by 'fringe elements' that while they may enjoy the same (or greater) benefits of governmnent, they work outside the normal mail boxes,(though sometimes FOR governments) I doubt you will find any of them personally listed. But then that's confusing the CEO with the Board of Directors, who hold the real power.

As for your second opinion, 'attrocities in broad daylight]??? I would say the Net (and all) did an awesome job (and still is) concerning the (state issued) 9-11 'offical conspiracy theory' IMo, it was all right out there 'hidden in plain sight' too, perhaps we'll see more of this with this case, MAYBE in a way they are tied together, who lnows, same Board of Directors? maybe, with the same agenda, hmmm what do you think.



posted on Jan, 2 2013 @ 09:36 PM
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What is the lawyers proof that their were 3 shooters? I didn't see anything in article other than a statement.



posted on Jan, 2 2013 @ 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by opethPA
What is the lawyers proof that their were 3 shooters? I didn't see anything in article other than a statement.



It really is just an opinion.
After doing a google search about this "lawyer", I think really the title of this thread should be...

Professional Conspiracy Theorist who makes his living selling conspiracy theories and has appeared on Alex Jones talking about conspiracies... says he thinks there's a conspiracy going on.



posted on Jan, 2 2013 @ 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by sqorpius
Michael Shrimpton, a lawyer involved in national security and constitutional law believes there were 3 shooters involved. Link
Nothing more has been said about the suspect captured in the woods or the other individual, "proned" outside the school. It's amazing to me how events can happen in broad daylight like this and then can be swept under the rug like they didn't happen at all.


Be a shame though if this lawyer story was a little more than directed/ straw man opposition, when he says "3" I don't doubt it, possible, but I wonder why he would box himself in like that unless he had reasonable evidence of that number. If you can crash the 3 theory though then maybe that will also crash the idea of more than one shooter (or even that Adam and his mom may have been victims) I think with the bungled media circus so far and not convincing anyone, we may be in line for some more sophisticated conditioning. Just sayin,



posted on Jan, 2 2013 @ 10:29 PM
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Originally posted by Djarums
The "article" on PressTV says in a nutshell "A lawyer guy has an opinion that there were 3 people involved" and yet presents absolutely no evidence. For that matter, they don't present anything other than a statement.

Huh?

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“The Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting was the work of three. I say again three shooters. It’s possible that Adam Lanza was one of those three, although there is some doubt about that. Some people within the intelligence community don’t accept… I think he was involved,” Michael Shrimpton told Press TV’s U.S. Desk on Tuesday.


Seriously?

Well, Hi... I'm Djarums... I'm an expert in online forums. I think a renegade troupe of barnyard animals were involved in the shooting. Evidence? Who cares. I said so!

Standards sure do drop straight down to the toilet when it comes to PressTV huh?
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Michael Shrimpton
www.veteranstoday.com...


Michael Shrimpton is a barrister, called to the Bar in London 1983 and is a specialist in National Security and Constitutional Law, Strategic Intelligence and Counter-Terrorism. He has wide ranging connections both in Western Intelligence agencies and amongst ex-Soviet Bloc agencies. Michael has earned respect in the intelligence community for his analysis of previously unacknowledged post WWII covert operations against the West by organisations based in Washington, Munich, Paris and Brussels and which are continuing in post 9-11.

He is Adjunct Professor of intelligence Studies, Department of National Security, Intelligence and Space Studies, American Military University, teaching intelligence subjects at Masters Degree level to inter alia serving intelligence officers. He has represented US and Israeli intelligence officers in law and has briefed staffers on the Senate select Committee on Intelligence and the Joint Congressional inquiry into 9-11, also addressing panels on terrorism in Washington DC and Los Angeles.

His active assistance to Intelligence and Law Enforcement Agencies in the Global War on Terror has produced some notable success including the exposure of the Abu Graib “hood” photograph as a fake. His work in strategic intelligence takes him on regular trips to the Pentagon and he also met with senior advisors to the President of the Russian Federation in Moscow in November 2005. He participated in the Global Strategic Review conference in Geneva in 2005 and is a regular contributor at conferences such as Intelcon and the Intelligence Summit Washington DC February 2006.


Unfortunately Mr. Site Admin. you lack credibility in the matter when one compares the credentials of you against Mr. Shrimpton.

Perhaps if you made a claim about someone posting in this forum you would attract far more credibility, however I have yet to see any record of your experience with barn yard animals and thus discard your opinion entirely. If you can provide evidence you have ever met with a farmer or have been a farmer yourself I will retract my opinion of your opinion.


Wow standards sure have dropped here on ATS, I do agree with you on that.
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posted on Jan, 2 2013 @ 11:32 PM
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So the two other shooters took off into the woods?
why adam lanza school connection

Perhaps the other two brought Adam along cause he had the guns.
Lets see if anyone could carry all those guns or if forensic evidence shows
others were transported in Adam's car.

Or the lawyer in London is too far from these weapons to figure things out.
There is still no clue linking the school to any problem for Lanza as far as the
record goes.



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 08:50 AM
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I guess none of you saw or remember this being posted:

www.veteranstoday.com...

He states:



This does not mean that every officer involved is happy with the cover-up. So far to the contrary it is clear that some of INTELCOM’s intelligence is coming from within the local police and possibly also CSP. Someone is also talking to NYPD, to judge from the leaching of information to the New York Fire Department. There is awareness in New York that they are fighting the same enemy as on 9-11. Well done by the way to the firemen for paying their respects. That was good to see.


That is where part of his info comes from. He also states many other sources......

There is also this.......which explains the Latin King existence not far from the shooting. One of the alleged suspects has ties to some on this list.


www.justice.gov...
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BTW......he did say the Russians have "oblique" satellite of that time frame. I wonder what it reveals.......
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posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by SMOKINGGUN2012
I guess none of you saw or remember this being posted:

www.veteranstoday.com...

He states:



This does not mean that every officer involved is happy with the cover-up. So far to the contrary it is clear that some of INTELCOM’s intelligence is coming from within the local police and possibly also CSP. Someone is also talking to NYPD, to judge from the leaching of information to the New York Fire Department. There is awareness in New York that they are fighting the same enemy as on 9-11. Well done by the way to the firemen for paying their respects. That was good to see.


That is where part of his info comes from. He also states many other sources......

There is also this.......which explains the Latin King existence not far from the shooting. One of the alleged suspects has ties to some on this list.


www.justice.gov...
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BTW......he did say the Russians have "oblique" satellite of that time frame. I wonder what it reveals.......
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Thanks for posting all that but i still don't see any firm proof. I see the author making statements like "Their were clearly multiple shooters" ..The image with the 3 people circled does not indicate 3 shooters but rather it looks like their were 3 people in the woods. To this point I have not see any irrefutable proof of anything but one shooter.



posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 06:54 PM
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The number of actual shooters appears to be unkown (at least to most of us) any verifiable facts supporting any number of shooters appear to be missing. I don't know if this has been posted but I did see an (unconfirmed) story where the SH school with their reported new security system supposedly had no cameras. Yes really, have to try and re- find the link if it hasn't already been posted. I thought they would just go maybe with the 'sudden glitch' story, no cameras, now, really? Anyone else read this latest version?

Edit: Found the link and posted on another SH thread, apparently there were reported cameras but they didn't record (according to the source)

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posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 07:03 PM
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I'd sure like to hear more about the satellite windows and oblique imagery. That sounds like the tip of an iceberg.



posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 07:21 PM
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Look at it this way. If there is a conspiracy here in these incident(s), who's agenda was to create fear, rage, confusion and insecurity in the general public, it would be one that is working. I am not saying that is the case, but who could deny the effect.



posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 07:40 PM
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His official bio doesn't mention that he is licensed to practice law in any State or the District of Columbia; it only mentions that he was called to the Bar in London 1983. The language in the bio regarding any US-based work he has done that related to the law is written in a way that dances around the mention of any license or accreditation to practice law in the US.

Link to the bio

I did track down a transcript of Shrimpton on Alex Jones:
Link to Transcript of Shrimpton on Alex Jones

Why even give this guy any press? The media stinks!



posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 08:07 PM
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were there even shooters. was this staged? or was this a terrorist attack.


all star transportation, the bus company that started their contract to pick up all newtown students in september, also picked up a helicopter contract. i started a topic on the bus company being authorized to use a private fueling area november 29, 2012.

so if you are planning to do this, it would be in the works for at least 2 years. with things being brought into place as the event is supposed to take place. so if you want full control over the building and surrounding area... you put in on a hill and have one road get to it. at the bottom of the long road is the unmarked in google.. fire department? that children allegedly ran to.. the video showing the person running was taken from a helicopter we assume. but there is no sound. strange... but anyways.. would if the runner is a parent who wandered into the scene or someone who wasn't supposed to be there. in newtown and surrounding towns, they were approving parking lots and got some funding for a huge multi million dollar youth center.. non for profit center. anyways.. so we see the video of the runner but who was flying the helicopter and i thought i read it took authorities 30 minutes to get there. plus we don't hear helicopters in any videos or witness accounts.. do we? so ya if we really want to consider a more organized crime. there must be much planning and controling of the situation. also the bus company asked parents of children to sign a waiver in november. dawn the principal at sandy hook advocated this .. i had never heard of school busses asking a parent to sign a waiver. the school does that already. if waiver wasn't signed a child would only be let out of bus if parent was there. otherwise would be kept at school over night. so it was sort of mandatory to sign. did something happen? that motivated the use of a waiver. also who's car is that? a relative? why not say.. why hasn't that been leaked? who are the survivors. one of the girls being interviewed describes hearing noises and when asked about her teacher looking nervous said no. when asked what happened after she heard the noises. she said "i heard them said 'get in the cubby'" who told her to get in the cubby... who does she mean when she says "them" typically kids will say .. my teacher or miss soto said. where are the emotional grabbing pictures of the alleged cubby or closets or bathrooms. some of the kids ran down to the fire house.. where is the re enactment of that run .. by the dramatizing media? where are the shots of the broken window/door from people that were there or fire, police, or family members. one parent said that clergy were asked to meet with parents as they were told of their childs death. she said rabbis, priests, nun, etc... but where are the pictures of the rabbi's and priests. we see two nuns. we also hear reports of potential suspects leaving scene in masks and dressed as nuns. where are all the candid pictures. we see pictures that seem to have perfect lighting and focus of emotional expressions and dramatic poses... but where are the candid shots of a scene ... and then there are shots of a small group of kids leaving the building. told not to look. some carrying art work or backpacks or jackets. if there is a shooting going on ... wouldn't it take more time to get out if you have your eyes closed, stop to grab your bag or jacket or art as these kids were holding. and who are the people walking them out.. and if this was a lone gunman ... what evidence proves this. how do we know adam killed his mother? if adam drove there ... were there prints on the car, video of him arriving outside the school. where is the footage from before the chase into the woods. so many questions that were usually are told by police and media. when the guy in charge of the autopsies was asked how many boys and how many girls were there he said "i don't know" how could you not know.. it's simple math. it's your job... you are with these bodies and must have a mental picture and documents stating the ratio ... when asked what they were wearing.. he said "kid stuff" why not describe a dress or one had a blue shirt. maybe they do things different in this town as compared to cities we are accustomed to seeing major incidents take place. i don't know why i feel so curious about what happened there. at first i believed the adam lanza story, but it's hard to ignore the lack of information released by police and the press not reporting on things that would bring ratings... like when a reporter is interviewing a witness who described the second suspect... he tells the reporter on camera. "he is sitting in the front of the police car right there" suggesting the reporter could see him if he turns his head. but the camera stays on the witness and there is no interest in the suspect. why?



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 09:39 PM
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This story seems to indicate another lawyer wanting to get some questions answered about just what thappened at SH is being 'discouraaged'. Don't go asking to many inconvenient questions now.


Attorney Irving Pinsky tells News 8 he's been getting death threats over what he calls the confusion over his request for permission to sue the state.

Pinsky says his intentions have become so confusing that someone may have shot as his office. He didn't file a police report because he says based on the last week or so, he'd be filing reports left and right. Tonight his message is "I never withdrew a lawsuit 'cause I didn't file one."

"That's just one bullet hole right there, that came through this window over here and then the other window was shot out completely," said Pinsky.

"When did you notice it though," asked News 8's Erin Logan.

"During the beginning of this case," said Pinsky.


www.wtnh.com...

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