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Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by Jordan River
Then if you believe that they are possible, you also believe in the "possiblity" of a heaven (other dimension). So you are not so atheist as you try to act like
What you can do for yourself is accept peoples belief other than yourself and stop acting like a grumpy old man
How can living, fleshy creatures living on another planet in this dimension possibly offer evidence of a fictional place in another dimension?
Here's a real eye opener for you. Go back and read all the posts and see who's being grumpy. Whenever anyone offers an opposing view to the belief in a mystical magical being, it's the believers that go bonkers.
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by Observationalist
reply to post by jiggerj
We are all conditioned by our repetitive experiences. I play golf well because I have done so with my father since I was a kid. I'm also a Christian because I was raised in a Christian home. I also should be a republican from my experience but I have re evaluated my stance (independent).
I'm still a Christian but not the brainwashed kind I was afraid I was becoming. I made a conscious effort to dig in to find out what the bible was about, and was satisfied with my findings.
I'm still a golfer and struggle to find the perfect swing, but I'm not fanatical about it unlike some who learned later than I.
That's just it, a brainwashed person is the last to know he/she is brainwashed. When you speak of golf and politics, they are based on reality. There are choices to be made in both fields, so the ability to differentiate between logical and illogical is hardwired into those neurons that were created specifically for those subjects. You would never use a putter as a driver on a 400 yard fairway. But, you would accept that a man's death can somehow forgive sins. Death and the forgiveness of sins do not go together - there is no connection between them, but you won't be able to work this out with your religious neurons.
However, if a child is taught that magic exists within the bible (gods, devils, dead people rising, contradictions...), then the neurons created specifically for religious beliefs will not develop the ability to discern what is logical as opposed to what isn't.
Here's an example of an inconsistency int he bible that you will probably create an excuse for, instead of just saying, "You're right, that doesn't make sense." Every believer in the bible is totally convinced that their god is all-knowing. By 'all-knowing' we mean he can see the past, present, future, and he can even see every thought in everyone's mind. ALL-KNOWING. Yet, the bible tells us that God said to Abraham as he was about to sacrifice his son, "Now I know that you fear me."
That remark clearly implies that this god didn't know that Abraham feared him before this. But the biblical god SHOULD HAVE known this even before Abraham was born, even before he created the earth.
Is this a flaw, or will you make up an excuse for it.
edit on 1/3/2013 by jiggerj because: (no reason given)