Indian Women Turn to Guns After Gang Rape Outcry

Originally posted by GrandStrategy


I wasn't speaking literally, I don't think rape is literally stopped here, obviously, nor do I think anyone in support of guns thinks guns would literally stop rape. But living in a liberal society with liberal laws and positive attitudes towards women IS proven to reduce, a better word, rape.

Where as guns do not decrease rape

Originally posted by DarthMuerte

When hundreds of concerned women turned up in person at the Delhi licensing office, they were told that the threat of rape and violent crime “could not be reason enough” for them to obtain a firearm, and officials were ordered by their superiors to hand the women a letter assuring them that “their daughters were indeed safe on Delhi’s roads.” How a letter would be any use against a violent rapist was not explained.

So gun grabbers. Do you support the rape and murder of these innocent women? Do you, in your self-righteousness, deny them the ability to defend themselves? What about your own daughters, sisters, mothers? Would you prefer they be brutally raped and beaten to death instead of having the right and ability to defend themselves?

The incident generated massive public outcry against the treatment of women in India and a call for tougher anti-violence laws. Figures show that a woman is raped in Delhi every 14 hours and rape cases have doubled in India since 1998. Government efforts to step up police patrols have failed to reduce the rate of violent crime targeting women.

This is no onetime thing. It is an epidemic and it is growing quickly. Is it ok because only one woman is being brutalized at a time?

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Definition provided by the US Department of Justice's Annual National Crime Victimization Survey.)
Rape Incidents

1.3 American women are raped every minute
78 rapes occur per hour

1872 rapes occur each day
56,160 rapes occur each month
700,000 rapes occur each year
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It’s not simply the high rate of rape in India that’s driving the protests’ virulence. In a passionate speech, Kavita Krishnan, secretary of the All India Progressive Women’s Association, spoke to the deeper issue behind the protests: the “blame the victim” culture in India around sex crimes. She notes that government and police officials recently insisted that most rapists can’t be prosecuted in India because, as one official put it, they are known to the women attacked. Other officials have publicly suggested that victims themselves are “asking for it” by their use of freedom of movement.
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Originally posted by GrandStrategy

Women get raped all the time in America. Guns don't stop rape. What stops rape is living in a decent society, a democracy, you know, with liberal laws, healthcare, education, no death penalty, no guns, no conservative assholes with backwards attitudes towards women.

Originally posted by DarthMuerte

Originally posted by GrandStrategy

Then why, as his been pointed out twice to you now, does America suffer more rape crimes than most European nations?

Because you are either mistaken or lying. I am not sure which, therefore I will give you the benefit of the doubt and go with mistaken and too lazy to research. In rapes per capita, the US did not even make the top 50 countries in 2008(the latest I could find a breakdown for) and in 2009 we were #57 for total number of rapes. I stand ready to receive your apology for such a brazen misstatement of fact.

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Originally posted by GuidedKill

Originally posted by GrandStrategy

Women get raped all the time in America. Guns don't stop rape. What stops rape is living in a decent society, a democracy, you know, with liberal laws, healthcare, education, no death penalty, no guns, no conservative assholes with backwards attitudes towards women.

Let also be honest and clear that most of all reported rapes are not violent attacks. More than 2/3 of all reported rapes are date rape situations and would not have any bearings on this topic. The protection aspect would really only be applied to attack type rapes.

Originally posted by GuidedKill

Originally posted by GrandStrategy

Women get raped all the time in America. Guns don't stop rape. What stops rape is living in a decent society, a democracy, you know, with liberal laws, healthcare, education, no death penalty, no guns, no conservative assholes with backwards attitudes towards women.

Let also be honest and clear that most of all reported rapes are not violent attacks. More than 2/3 of all reported rapes are date rape situations and would not have any bearings on this topic. The protection aspect would really only be applied to attack type rapes.

Originally posted by DarthMuerte

Originally posted by GrandStrategy


I wasn't speaking literally, I don't think rape is literally stopped here, obviously, nor do I think anyone in support of guns thinks guns would literally stop rape. But living in a liberal society with liberal laws and positive attitudes towards women IS proven to reduce, a better word, rape.

Where as guns do not decrease rape

Keep on going there sparky, but I think you missed this link from my previous post

Originally posted by smyleegrl

Originally posted by GrandStrategy

Originally posted by smyleegrl

Originally posted by GrandStrategy

Women get raped all the time in America. Guns don't stop rape. What stops rape is living in a decent society, a democracy, you know, with liberal laws, healthcare, education, no death penalty, no guns, no conservative assholes with backwards attitudes towards women.

I live in a decent society, a democracy, with liberal laws and education and positive attitudes towards women.

Guess what. Got raped anyway.

If I'd had a gun, would I have used it? Probably not; I was young and terrified.

But if someone tried to hurt me again, he'll yes I'd shoot him.

I wasn't speaking literally, I don't think rape is literally stopped here, obviously, nor do I think anyone in support of guns thinks guns would literally stop rape. But living in a liberal society with liberal laws and positive attitudes towards women IS proven to reduce, a better word, rape.

Where as guns do not decrease rape

I promise you, a gun will decrease MY getting raped again.