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Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by Khurzon
Sorry...I should have separated those experiences from the out of body experience.
Meaning to say, the ghost, and other experiences were "in body".
Do you have your sight, still of today?
Originally posted by skyzeagle
reply to post by Jameliel
People can repent after death?? Do we even know what we will be after death? We are of this Universe, the same one created by that God and whereas our energies flow so beautifully by way of the gift of life given us by our creator, there is nothing known of what will be.
I'm not reminding you of that to frighten you, in fact rather to provide purchase for your faith - whatever faith you have. As theologically unsound as some religious depictions of the after-life may be, not all of them include repentance.
Be clear in one thing: the religion that we use - be it either through Jesus Christ, or through any (repeat) any other prophet or leader no matter the incarnation they may have represented during their stay here on earth, represent one thing. That thing is a path to the Truth of God's love for us (because if God did not love us, we would not exist here even this long). And in knowing that like water traveling to the sea, the truths will guide the way to the one God that there is, was and shall be. This in no way diminishes who the Son of God was, but for perspective - take note:
Did Jesus Ever Say the Exact Words 'I Am God'?
What is important most of all is that you continue your path of understanding just like you value a path towards education. Atheist, Wiccan, Buddhist, Islamic, Christian, Jewish, Zoroastrian, etc. they are all software that pretty much lead you to the same goal of understanding why we're here, for what purpose and what best use that may represent to others on this planet.
Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by skyzeagle
What is important most of all is that you continue your path of understanding just like you value a path towards education. Atheist, Wiccan, Buddhist, Islamic, Christian, Jewish, Zoroastrian, etc. they are all software that pretty much lead you to the same goal of understanding why we're here, for what purpose and what best use that may represent to others on this planet.
I agree. Each has it's place in each persons life. Many try to speak on how things work above, and how one path is the correct one.
Begin by throwing away all religious writings. Keep none of them. Do likewise with any ICONS that you may have. Next get rid of all books on philosophy and history. Position yourself so that there is nowhere to look except inside yourself. Then, when this is done, find God waiting. It is sooooo easy but sooooo hard too. Humans reject the aloneness that is required. We prefer being grouped according to social externals.
Originally posted by skyzeagle
reply to post by Jameliel
You are muddying the truth with pseudo-wisdom speak.
All I have said, or if I haven't then it was unintentionally ambiguous or not said at all, was this: every person is responsible for their own religious well-being. You will know what is good especially when you are using the beliefs that have already been seen through the existing truths of any number of existing religions. Does that mean you must BLINDLY follow what every church or synagogue or temple is telling you? Of course not!
God didn't only give you the ability to perceive spirit, he/she/it gave you an intellect which, coincidentally, I believe we at least in part share with God's mind but that's a different story.
If you are so ready to use religion to guide you as the sole means of truth in the one life you have, the only gift that you truly were given ever, then it was never a gift to begin with. Even with those people who have chosen to devote their lives to serve others as ministers or catholic nuns or monks...their lives while seemingly singular in their focus is pretty varied and rich. You should talk to one if you haven't and get to know them. You'll be surprised and honored.
The truth is, don't follow a religion if you don't want to but truth, logic and humanity (i.e., morality, kindness, care of others, to name a few) are universal and can be seen, if you look hard enough, as the distilled essence of almost any religion you can find (or perhaps a negative inverse when looking at certain dis-positive types.)
Think. In mathematics. Start with any number representing your potential. Now: be negative. Subtract. Subtract some more. Soon, you'll be scraping along the bottom and with that philosophy, no real hope of change. Start again. This time, be positive. Will negative things happen? Of course, but the philosophy will guide you to see opportunity where only negative showed you diminishing returns before. This is just another way of saying God is love. Religion guides us to see where we can change, where we can thrive, where we can give, hope and enjoy this time here and now.
This is not difficult to enunciate. It just takes practice. And time. I am still trying.
But if you're just baiting or trolling, then I have to graciously bow out of this thread before I start to violate the spirit of God's love, because I find that just so distasteful.