Proof 2 Guns Found in Black Honda at Sandy Hook Elementary School

reply to post by SMOKINGGUN2012


Hey Mr. Smoke, I thought you were experienced at motions for search warrants?? You claim that you are for reasons that you will not divulge, right here in this thread. However, I have debunked you a couple of times on this issue. Now you are going all crazy about the lead LE officer on this case making a reference, (regarding a lawful motion for a search warrant and sealed affidavit) to the fact that the automobile initially accepted (by the public) as owned by Nancy Lanza is in fact NOT owned by Nancy but another relative. Really? Could you explain how he has violated his OWN requests for search warrant and sealed affidavits??? Please, it would be illuminating.

Originally posted by Asktheanimals

MOD NOTE

My apologies everyone. Any information of a personal nature that could lead to harassment of anyone (this includes license plates) needs removal.
I didn't realize that this would covered under the T&C.
For the ignorance on my part and encouraging others to do the same I apologize.

That is why I have removed all references to them and I request that you do the same.
Thank you for your kind co-operation in this matter.

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I removed the uploads hoping it will take away the pics from the post, since I can't edit my own posts anymore.
Please go ahead and remove them from my posts if you have permission.


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reply to post by Vaedur


Well, I think that my evolving opinion has changed on the different plates as I have stated throughout this thread. I am not missing that anymore.

In the very beginning, I was very upset, emotional, and upon hindsight, irrational, in my initial theories regarding this tragedy. I have mellowed out. I DO believe there is a conspiracy but it is a much more sinister and opaque conspiracy than I originally believed. I personally have moved passed much of my crazier theories and now have settled into one that is much more rational.

I DO think that Adam was manipulated and handled. But all the on-scene fakery ideas I had in the beginning have subsided.

Originally posted by GrantedBail
reply to post by Vaedur

 

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I DO think that Adam was manipulated and handled. But all the on-scene fakery ideas I had in the beginning have subsided.

I come to somewhat similar conclusion as well, there are some real culprits and accomplices.
Still I have too many unanswered questions remaining.

reply to post by Asktheanimals


Are the wheels different?

I count 7 slots...just like the one in front of the school.

I also notice there is a towel covering the driver's side window...as tho it had been broken.

Originally posted by SMOKINGGUN2012Oh how convenient.....so 20 seconds after 872YEO is said on the radio this cop comes on saying I have run the operator and gives this guys info. Except for one thing......Why do you give all that info over the radio for a warning for a parking violation and how did he list this guy's info if he was supposedly driving his mother's car? Sorry but I do not buy this.........BTW somebody explain to me how you get a parking warning while you are driving? HE WAS PULLED OVER HE WAS NOT PARKED.........This story stinks.............

His info would have come from his "FL license".

But the rest is...convenient...to be sure.

Originally posted by GrantedBail
reply to post by Nola213

 

It just hit me. The car is registered to Ryan!! Boom. Why would they go looking for a dead man! Adam didn't have Ryan's ID. He had driven a car to Sandy Hook that was registered to HIS BROTHER. That is it. I would be almost sure of it.

How does he get a car from someone he hasn't seen in 3 years...?...without that person knowing...?

Originally posted by jessejamesxx
Is there any evidence that the Honda didn't have 2 different license plates on it, front and back?

That;s the $64,000 question that will be hard to answer since we can't show pictures of license plates (due to T&C privacy of personal information)

reply to post by swansong19


I have two sons. They have each driven cars that are either registered in my name or the older brother. Reason for this is a car was purchased for the oldest child that the younger child ended up eventually driving. That is just ONE reason. Even though a car was registered in my kid's name does not mean I wasn't the one that paid for it.

Ryan works in New York (I believe it was Manhattan at Ernst and Young) and on the day of the massacre it was even reported that he took a bus home. Remember? A lot of people that work in the city use public transportation and do not drive to work. Also remember that Nancy took frequent trips to New Hampshire. Part of the reason for those excursions could very well have been to visit her older son.

Ryan could have purchased a different car and the mom took/bought back the Honda. Nancy could have driven the car back to Connecticut at some point recently to have service done on it. There are a number of reasons that the mother had this car at her residence. Many, many reasons.

reply to post by Vaedur

IT'S CLEAR AS DAY THAT BRANCHES ARE COVERING THE LICENSE PLATE!!! that's why when it's blown up it looks like a different plate. How are any of you missing this?

It's only covering the FIRST digit so I can see how that one could be misconstrued (not to mention the natural process of blowing an image up degrades it).

reply to post by swansong19


My apologies, It was not my intention to be dismissive I just wanted to post a stern warning to others that posts dealing with those subjects would A) derail the thread and B) probably be removed.

Personally, I find EVERY angle worth investigating. It's your time to spend however you want and often answers come from unexpected angles. I wish we had a bit more latitude in dealing with certain subjects.

Originally posted by swansong19
reply to post by Asktheanimals

 

Are the wheels different?

I count 7 slots...just like the one in front of the school.

I also notice there is a towel covering the driver's side window...as tho it had been broken.

i mentioned the towel earlier. I just was like "odd, he most have a broken window" posted that earlier too. Most of the time tho you'd use cardboard and cover it with plastic, as a towl won't stop the rain. Maybe he had it and tossed it on the car when someone with a camera showed up is my best guess now.

reply to post by GrantedBail


HE didn't request anything pertaining to search warrants....and I never said he did......
Lt. Vance is merely the lead spokesperson for the Conn State police in this matter and as a matter of fact is not involved in any of the investigation. From what I hear only the highest ranks are investigating this.
He did...IMO violate the order for the information within and or obtained in conjunction with said warrant.
The warrant stated a plate number only, it did not state who it was registered to as did the other warrant. He got that information following the issuance of the warrant therefore he in fact violated a judge's order by releasing any information having to do with that black Honda.

reply to post by ratboy


Actually, you can see more branches to the right of the first branch that is reaching into the right 4 numbers, covering them a tad too. That's what my eyes tell me.

reply to post by SMOKINGGUN2012


So you think Vance is out of the loop and not informed on an hourly basis on the progress of this investigation?? You think he is flying by the seat of his pants? He clearly knows who the black honda is registered to as well as the firearms used, the witness statements, and every single facet of this investigation from the it's onset. The registered owner was NOT included in the motion for the search warrant because the investigators DID NOT want the information disseminated by the PUBLIC. For whatever reason, and it could be as innocuous as not wanting to implicate Ryan at all in the crime. We still don't know for sure who the registered owner is but I would bet you a doughnut that the Honda is registered to RYAN!!!!! To suggest that Vance is violating the "sealed affidavit" is just a ridiculous stretch.