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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
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I don't see you making the world a better place with this thread. I only see you pointing fingers and starting fights. Care to explain that?..
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
I might be wrong, but I believe this image is the reason half of the 2012ers were so desperate to believe. Some people are so desperate for change that they will grasp any straw within reach.
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This is what you are laughing at. This is what you are ignoring at our expense. This is the fate to which we are condemning ourselves, and this is the future you disregard in your hilarity at our disappointment. This is why I don't respect your thread.
Even as you laugh at those of us who struggle to retain our last shreds of hope, the world continues to burn.
You are doing a bad job of convincing people that 2012ers are wrong for having hoped for a change in the world. Really, you're making a very fine example of why we want the world to change. Attitudes like yours get people hurt.
Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by AfterInfinity
well the photo and the map below shows all the protest in 2012, many have lasting changes on the nations in which they took place. Many for the good of the people, while others were absorbed by western government agencies and derailed. Bahrain, UAE, Saudi Arabia, any nation that is friendly with the US. But the photo clearly shows people in action not sitting on their butts.
I saw nothing more than sloth when it comes to 2012. I saw no one getting off their lazy butts to make the world a better place.
As you said yourself, there is no easy button.....
This is true to a point except there is no reason to believe anything happend. If something undeniably happened and I continue to say that nothing happened, then it would be the same.
Originally posted by InfinitePerspective
Originally posted by ZetaRediculian
I really believe that the mind will make things up it expects to be there.
This is an interesting point.
I ask you now, and I intend this with utmost respect, by this logic could it not be said that when one holds onto the idea that "nothing happened," one will make up this happening of nothing because that is what is expected? So, in essence, you are doing the same thing as the ones that believed something happened or is happening.
Ponder if you will, the idea that every opinion, every belief that anyone has is simply their own delusion of what they want reality to be. From this perspective, no one is ever wrong or right and to be wrong or right is to delude oneself.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by seen2much
Actually, for the past 70 years life has gotten much better for many. Yes, there is evil, but neither your crystal pyramids or mantras will eliminate it. It is a natural part of humanity, sadly.
Ah. So you believe humans are naturally evil. With that kind of outlook, it's not surprising you are so cynical and provocative. You only understand or care about what you feel about the world, all other perspectives be damned.
You are doing a bad job of convincing people that 2012ers are wrong for having hoped for a change in the world. Really, you're making a very fine example of why we want the world to change. Attitudes like yours get people hurt.edit on 6-1-2013 by AfterInfinity because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by masta12d
reply to post by stereologist
Really?
They don't look to be sitting on their butts. Just saying.....
I feel for the Shia, Christians and women as they will have nothing to gain thanks to spiritual beliefs of a group of people, like 2012ers, hold that they are in the "know" of what humanity should be. Hopefully, real democratic groups will win in those areas but it will take time.
The self-righteous fury is interesting to read here. It is interesting to note that 2012ers try to place the blame on humanity for nothing happening! Nothing happened because of us? What is the point of prophecy? Well, it allows an escape clause for failed ones.
Forget 2012. Forget the Mayans. Forget the end of the world. None of that has any meaning here. You think nothing happened over the course of 2012? Have you been on some other planet? Shootings, bombings, disease, inflation, war, famine, police brutality, constitutional corruption, spiritual corrosion, the list goes on and on.
I'm placing the blame on all of humanity because we are the ones making a difference for this stupid rock floating in space. It's up to us to decide what kind of difference we make. If you don't understand that, then maybe we should be shooting you into space instead of those monkeys. We sure don't need you here.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by seen2much
It's up to us to decide what kind of difference we make.