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posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 08:08 PM
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Hmmm

Remember the good old days here on ATS when we use to question people so that they could prove that they were time travellers ? Now we question people to prove if they are stock brokers , my how times have changed




posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 08:32 PM
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People need the internet to become learned about current events happening in real time around them globally and ATS and other sites like it provide an important conduit from which people may do this.

I agree that people need to have peacefull marches and that if three or ten million people march together then there will be no bloodshed,but without these overwhelming numbers we can do nothing because there are powers who can supress hundreds of thousands ,but not millions,its a numbers game we could easily win if enough people were brave enough to step forward.But people are much to self serving in general to display this bravery unprovoked.

A crusade is what is needed,so organise all the major music people and actors and politicians and churches and minority groups to come together at once on a crusade,make it a generational thing.Just dont get caught organising or you will end up in jail,people need to do the Anonymous trick and then just start showing up ENMASSE all with their cameras and live internet feeds to document the peace.


I have an idea---organise the ten million to march in one country as the same number marches in every major country in the world demanding a day of global fiscal emancipation-----on one day every human on earth is forgiven of all debt at one time ,everywhere,together,this solves our global crisis and issues in one shot,it also breaks the rich and powerful immediatly.

Imagine if tomorrow no one owed anyone anything???We would all be truly equal at one time for the first time in human history---run with that one friend.

Its that simple and thats a good enough reason for ten million people per country to march globally.

Remember the term GLOBAL FISCAL EMANCIPATION---you WILL see and hear this phrase again ,believe me.Its the only way to move humanity forward without a global war,simple as that.

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posted on Jan, 5 2013 @ 12:52 AM
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Originally posted by MorkandMindy

Is there no things you can do against the 'MafiA when you are a trader running around the floor?? (or maybe you worked behind your desk [I DUNNO] OO'! ) you can't do sh1tt!? I really wonder that's why my question for you a_ jew against zionism.

And is it true that big C0rps can gamble if a business goes down or not? and the loss are paid back by the tax payers?


there is nothing I can do, my whole point is that we need 3 million people

yes big banks are too big to fail, federal reserve simply prints the money and covers their loss

and of course printed money is added as your total debt,
and then the lovely government tells you that you need
to work harder, pay more taxes, and tighten the belt

such a lovely deal don't you think



posted on Jan, 5 2013 @ 12:59 AM
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Originally posted by krysania
Remember, I am learning to trade FX, I am not an expert in any way. Are you saying that a market maker will deliberately dishonour a stop-loss in order to increase my losses?

I have read that small positions could be ignored in times of high trading volumes to the effect that any stop-loss I may make would become pointless until such time that the broker could get round to dealing with my tiny trade. Are you saying that the lag in honouring stop-losses are in fact deliberate? If I have understood you correctly is this something that is endemic or are we talking about a few bad players? If so, can you name names?


You need to read carefully because I believe I was quite clear

Your average FX bucketshop broker, lets you play a Virtual Reality game
where you only think your orders are being executed on the exchange.

how can they do this??

well simple........they know 90% of traders will have losing positions
due to human psychology so they simply see your account as deposit
that they will slowly chip away.

And if you happen to be 10% that starts making money, they are
ready for you as well, your orders start getting slow to process,
the slippage becomes insane, and ultimately, if none of this
helps. They at that point place real hedging bets on the real
market to offset your good trading, ultimately they know you
will leave due to frozen orders, slippage, accounting "mistakes" and so on



posted on Jan, 5 2013 @ 01:04 AM
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Originally posted by krysaniaQuestion,

Oanda, a trusted market maker or not? Did you just pull that name out of a hat as an example or are you actually recommending Oanda?
Finally I would like to say that ATS has taught me a great deal, and places like this can shine a light of hope. The hope being that enough people wake up to what is really happening in the world to create that critical mass of consciousness that will enable change for the good of us all. Getting bogged down in endless discussion dims that light somewhat.


No, Oanda is a bucketshop

I told him to play with Oanda just to get a feel for the prices and charts

If he ever got serious, I would recommend a broker like Interactive Brokers which
is decent broker for retail customers

And as to why would he trade FX if he wanted to trade stock market

Answer

if he learned to have long term profits in FX, he would definitely be ready for
stock and futures as well.

trading has nothing to do with investing in value, and waiting, those days are GONE

And maybe that's one of the reasons we are in such crappy reality now
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posted on Jan, 5 2013 @ 01:06 AM
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Originally posted by SteveR
Oanda is forex. How is this going to help someone (the guy asked specifically about learning the stock market)?


read the post just above this one



posted on Jan, 5 2013 @ 01:09 AM
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They wont have anything when we take control of their banks
thats if 200,000 Australians nationwide are with me of course
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posted on Jan, 5 2013 @ 01:11 AM
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Originally posted by sumgai
I did all that. I've been hunkered down for a while now.

What's going to happen within the next 10 months?

Aren't the gold and silver markets just as heavily manipulated as the stock market?


I expect this year when something will happen to crash the markets
or cause "bank holidays"

be it false flag, be it economic false flag, be it uncontrollable storm over NY
In my opinion 2013 is the year

As for Gold and Silver

YES, gold and silver prices are extremely manipulated down,
and in fact I expect gold and silver to go down even more from
current prices

But then here is the kicker, when this event happens, FED will lose
the control of Gold and Silver markets, and BOOM you will see
prices triple.



posted on Jan, 5 2013 @ 01:12 AM
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Originally posted by DarknStormy
They wont have anything when we take control of their banks


and how are you going to do that when you don't have 3 million people to march and burn down Federal Reserve ??

EDIT: oh so you are Australian
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posted on Jan, 5 2013 @ 01:14 AM
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Originally posted by JewAgainstZionism

Originally posted by DarknStormy
They wont have anything when we take control of their banks


and how are you going to do that when you don't have 3 million people to march and burn down Federal Reserve ??


I'm in Australia, I don't know what the Americans are going to do



posted on Jan, 5 2013 @ 09:43 AM
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Originally posted by shivaX
Why are you guys on ATS such pessimist

Frankly speaking it has been my 48 hours of joining ATS and I haven't found anyone optimstic here


I would suggest not mistaking realism for pessimism.

It is rational and realistic to acknowledge the grave dangers facing the American people and Constitution, as well as the people of the world by multiple groups intent on world domination.



posted on Jan, 5 2013 @ 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by JewAgainstZionism

Originally posted by sumgai
I did all that. I've been hunkered down for a while now.

What's going to happen within the next 10 months?

Aren't the gold and silver markets just as heavily manipulated as the stock market?


I expect this year when something will happen to crash the markets
or cause "bank holidays"

be it false flag, be it economic false flag, be it uncontrollable storm over NY
In my opinion 2013 is the year

As for Gold and Silver

YES, gold and silver prices are extremely manipulated down,
and in fact I expect gold and silver to go down even more from
current prices

But then here is the kicker, when this event happens, FED will lose
the control of Gold and Silver markets, and BOOM you will see
prices triple.


I'd be curious to know what kind of real assets the Fed has.

It's one thing for the Fed to have someone sit at a computer and create electronic currency and another to have real, hard assets with real value.

In times of economic collapse, basic assets like food and the tools for producing food become vital assets.

I wonder how much the Fed is involved with companies like Monsanto.



posted on Jan, 5 2013 @ 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by DarknStormy
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They wont have anything when we take control of their banks
thats if 200,000 Australians nationwide are with me of course
edit on 5-1-2013 by DarknStormy because: (no reason given)


I don't think taking control of the banks is necessary. Just force their failure. They have no enforcing capacity for protecting their real assets except for the government, and if everything else is collapsing the government's hands will be too tied up to protect banksters real assets.

Just look at all the people who are still living in homes that were foreclosed on 3 or 4 years ago.



posted on Jan, 5 2013 @ 09:31 PM
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Hey have you heard Peter Schiff? CEO of EuroPacific Capital Inc.

What's your take on him?

Also, how the F are we going amass 3,000,000 people? And then have them act in unison? Are you sure, that's the way to go about this? What about 3,000 or 300 or fewer carefully selected people, with specialized skills? You're one. Now you just need 299 or 2999 more to go.

Or is that what you're doing here?



posted on Jan, 5 2013 @ 09:43 PM
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Originally posted by JewAgainstZionism
if he learned to have long term profits in FX, he would definitely be ready for
stock and futures as well.

trading has nothing to do with investing in value, and waiting


So what does it have to do with then? And how successful have you been?

Thanks for answers



posted on Jan, 6 2013 @ 12:27 AM
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Originally posted by JuniorBeauchamp
I'd be curious to know what kind of real assets the Fed has.

It's one thing for the Fed to have someone sit at a computer and create electronic currency and another to have real, hard assets with real value.

In times of economic collapse, basic assets like food and the tools for producing food become vital assets.

I wonder how much the Fed is involved with companies like Monsanto.


Fed has very real physical assets in addition to being able to create paper assets.

Federal Reserve is a private bank, and as a private bank it
issued shares, Those shares were acquired by ruling families, Warburgs, Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Morgans.

Federal Reserve is owned by the same people who Own Goldman Sachs
+many other banks.

Through Goldman and other banks around the world, owners of FED also
own numerous business and yes they hold shares of Monsanto as well.



posted on Jan, 6 2013 @ 12:32 AM
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Originally posted by sumgai
Hey have you heard Peter Schiff? CEO of EuroPacific Capital Inc.

What's your take on him?

Also, how the F are we going amass 3,000,000 people? And then have them act in unison? Are you sure, that's the way to go about this? What about 3,000 or 300 or fewer carefully selected people, with specialized skills? You're one. Now you just need 299 or 2999 more to go.

Or is that what you're doing here?


Peter Schiff is right about everything, EXCEPT the timing
his own little hedge fund didn't perform so well.

All that aside, he is a call it like he sees it kind a guy

How to Amass 3 million people ??

Well my whole point is that you can't. Even Ron Paul who could have
mobilized 10 million people in 48 hours, had he the guts to do it.
Even Ron would have been killed by CIA (heart attack no doubt for poor old man)

So the point of this thread is to understand WHY we will lose.

If we are going to lose, lets at least not be under illusion why.



posted on Jan, 6 2013 @ 12:40 AM
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Originally posted by SteveR
So what does it have to do with then? And how successful have you been?

Thanks for answers


Some people like the dying Dinosaur Warren Buffet still practice long term investing.

But most investors also start hedge funds on the side, and they
simply play the stocks for momentum which can be as short
as 1 day.

And they make money on the way down, or during market crashes

While the gullable masses throw their money and retirement money
into mutual funds that don't even adjust to protect against market
plunge. So when Joe Blow goes to his local bank, that is what
the "expert working for a dinky salary" tells him to do.

Very sad.

As to how much I have made, it is all in eye of beholder,
I am piss poor for some traders out there, and mouse poor
for bankers out there.
But I've made/stole enough for early retirement.
In my defense, I've helped lot of family and friends.
Even homeless on the street sometimes.



posted on Jan, 6 2013 @ 01:00 AM
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Originally posted by JewAgainstZionism
I am piss poor for some traders out there,


What is the difference between you and them?



posted on Jan, 6 2013 @ 01:52 AM
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Unless 3 million people minimum march onto White house or Capital Hill, or Federal Reserve and demand complete change of government from CIA to Politicians to complete dismissal of AIPAC and other lobbies.



The approach of this is not worth its time, I understand what you are talking about and i agree. Besides Protesting the most effective effect we can bring upon the governments (Wrong Doings) is supporting Data Information Leakers (Hackers)... I am not saying support the corrupt Hackers that are of thief crime background but support the ones who are trying to help.

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