I fell into a trap and so did you, We WILL BE destroyed, page 15

reply to post by jurassicTruth

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maybe for you.......

reply to post by JewAgainstZionism

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Your 3 milion number seems arbitrary. Anyway, 1 million marched with the Tea Party, and the WH made sure to tell them that POTUS was not even in town and nobody cared.
Yes, hearts and minds can be changed on forums if given the right information. Do you think I care that some nobody online will argue with me that Agenda 21 is just a nice little voluntary program and it's insignificant, when it's the biggest trojan horse of the NWO? While I am arguing my point with that person who will not budge, 5 more people may see for the first time.
This is the information highway my friend. Did you come here to tell us not to talk on ATS because the NWO will roll over us anyhow , or are you really trying to get us to do something else? Because I just told you a million marched and the healthcare bill still passed before anyone read it. We already know they are not listening unless they know they get voted out.
It's a good thing Boehner finally got something right because he knows people were mad.
But you are right, we need to do more. Americans seem to be at cross purposes with one another. Many have not realized how far the Collective has trampled on our rights. Many want the Collective.

I can tell you that people are doing something at the local level. Becoming educated is the first step.
Thanks for your perspective

reply to post by Northisland

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i did not post that. But agree with your assessment.

reply to post by JewAgainstZionism

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Not to offend, but while I believe you're somewhat on the right track about what is coming, your stated means of defense against this is naive in the extreme.

See: www.guardian.co.uk...

According to the article I've linked to here, the FBI, DHS, DSAC, and others are now treating any protests of measure as Terrorist Actions. Very little of this activity actually made it through the govt. censors to see the light of day in the mainstream press, but to put it mildly, the human rights violations that were inflicted by police on protesters in Oakland, CA, USA, were just the tip of the iceberg.

The disinformation campaign has been in full swing since early in the Bush administration, as many already know. Endless misdirection. False flag campaigns. It's all part of a greater plan to enslave humanity as a whole, or to at least bring our numbers down to a more manageable size. Personally, I believe this is at the core of the message on the Georgia Guidestones.

(excerpt)
A message consisting of a set of ten guidelines or principles is engraved on the Georgia Guidestones in eight different languages, one language on each face of the four large upright stones. Moving clockwise around the structure from due north, these languages are: English, Spanish, Swahili, Hindi, Hebrew, Arabic, Chinese, and Russian.

1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2. Guide reproduction wisely — improving fitness and diversity.
3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
4. Rule passion — faith — tradition — and all things with tempered reason.
5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
9. Prize truth — beauty — love — seeking harmony with the infinite.
10. Be not a cancer on the earth — Leave room for nature — Leave room for nature.
(end of excerpt)

While this all sounds very altruistic in a certain light, the first thing that should be considered is statement #1, which would require the extermination or obliteration of roughly 6.5 billion humans to achieve. #2 leads one to believe that all reproduction will be controlled. #3 is equivalent of the extinction of all global languages with the exception of one. #4... how do you rule passion? Sounds like being lobotomized to me. #5... which people? Those remaining after the extermination of the other 85% of the planetary population? #6... the one-world government that all (so called) god fearing people insist is the worst thing that could ever happen. #7... make of that one what you will... it could go either way. #8... if rights are actually a list of privileges that get shorter every year or so, does this mean people will have to earn rights lest they be treated as slaves? #9... isn't that one just squishy cute? To me, it sounds like the mantra of a new religion. #10... if 6.5 Billion humans are exterminated to take care of step 1, then by step 10, there'll be nothing left on earth but nature, and any technology that the 'masters' create to keep the remainder of humanity in check (or enslaved, if you prefer).

While I agree that we're screwed, what I tend to argue to the degree to which we are screwed. The average joe has no clue just how bad its going get, but you can practically guarantee that if this all goes down before privatized space travel is a reality, those who remain here will be slaves till the stars burn out.

reply to post by JewAgainstZionism

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I have always felt it necessary to be the type of person to stand up for what I believe in. Hell I think god was a space alien and we are all transplants, including the food we eat. Anyhow, I was commenting to open up a rant about my beliefs, it more about what yours was about. I think if you have something to stand on, and you feel firm about it, then go ahead and stand on it. My concearn is that I don't really see what its going to accomplish when people protest.

I'm all for the occupy movement and I even participated in the world wide march, I just don't think its accomplished anything. I think if anything the president took notice and probably said, oh well, I guess we will have to start banning movements like this.

reply to post by Screwed

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damn skippy sir.

Its good to know people like you are still around.

reply to post by JewAgainstZionism

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My previsions all lead to only one likely future - THEY win.

Originally posted by zedVSzardoz
reply to post by Northisland

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i did not post that. But agree with your assessment.

edit on 3-1-2013 by zedVSzardoz because: (no reason given)

Sorry about that. Meant to quote op

Originally posted by zedVSzardoz
reply to post by JewAgainstZionism

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protesting does nothing.

Here on ATS and elsewhere we educate ourselves. Every shill and moron has made us learn and push ourselves to become better. In the end it will not be a bloodless revolution or a violent one that will change a thing. It will be a generation of informed and educated people who simply take the positions of power in a real democratic society they will envision together with their people and make into reality.

there is no "asking" or "demanding". There is only doing. When we are ready to run for office, which we will have time to do so for another 50 or more years, we will simply be elected in landslide victories over puppets. That takes education and preparation. We need for the shills to keep coming and by their tactics, a better fighter in us to forge.

There is no "now", and especially so there is no "end"......

Time is on our side......always is, always was, always will be....tomorrow belongs to no one...

edit on 2-1-2013 by zedVSzardoz because: (no reason given)

You wish...

Its my humble opinion that there is something wrong in our genetic makeup. Besides the lonely odd one greed, power crazy and prestige is the driving force behind most leaders and these 'qualities' will be a promised receipe for disapointment and failure.

Sure we will learn from our mistakes but eversince the history of humanity we have never learned from our mistakes when it comes to building a fruitfull and lasting society.

What we need is some bio-technology to filter-out the rotten apples before 'they' take higher office and carry the responsibillity of people and funds.

Originally posted by swan001
reply to post by JewAgainstZionism

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My previsions all lead to only one likely future - THEY win.

Win WHAT exactly?
Win control over those who wish to be controlled?
Sounds like a win win to me.

They want control.
People want to BE controlled.
Win, Win!

If people as whole, didn't want to be controlled and didn't waller in their own enslavement like pigs in # then none of this would be happening now would it?

We need to be controlled because it makes us feel safe.
Safe from an external threat.
A threat that THEY created in the first place.

Until this changes and we stop being fearful and timid, then THEY will always get their way.

They can create whatever world they want but there is one thing they aren't powerful enough to do.
No matter how many laws,rules, regulations, standing armies, guns, tanks, taser guns,pepper spray and rubber bullets they have and aquire they can NOT force ME to live in their world they want to create.

TBTB, as much as we want to hate and villify them, are correct in one thing at least.
People are dumb cattle which need to be lead.
Out of Chaos, order will come.
Ordo Ab Chao.

reply to post by 11I11

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I agree with you on this. I just shake my head at all these fearmongering threads. It can get tiring, although some are amusing and entertaining.

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