reply to post by MamaJ
That is my point in regards to perception.
When deciphering truths with your inner dialogue one can actually change his way of thinking. I have done this since I was a little girl.
Focusing on what matters, what is truth to me, and kicking the rest out after much ponder.
and
Alice went down the rabbit hole and saw all the illusions. I want to take my time and see what are illusions and what are truths.
The evident facts I mentioned are not seen out of rose colored glasses, they are mere facts.
Yes, but is anything you mentioned here "evident facts," really. Are just a result of your perceptions after regarding and considering what you
observe as "reality," which, of course, may or may not be at all. That to me is truly the point of Alice's story. Although what she experienced,
saw and dealt with
seemed to be illusory, her journey to find an escape route was no less real than say, my need to get my car repaired today
because it isn't behaving appropriately (joke intended, here, in case it wasn't obvious.)
The only way, truly, to differentiate between what are illusions and what are truths is perception, as you started your reply with. But perception,
itself, is limited, as any two people may see the same thing quite differently, and then perceive its meaning and actuality differently, as well. Any
trial lawyer will tell you eye witness testimony is the absolute most unreliable. This illustrates just that about perception, and how tenuous it, in
fact, is.
And this means that "reality" is really only a result of our perception of it, as I believe you kind of stated, there, already. And obviously,
experiencing the same or different, all humans have varying perceptions.
One thing that was discovered while they were searching for the Higgs Boson and other particles difficult to detect, or "nail down," as virtually
existing, is that they tended to find them, "see" them whenever and wherever they expected to. This says a lot, I think, on a physics level, even,
about
perception, and how just our observation and expectations that accompany our observations affect the
perception we have of what we
call reality.
Hard to wrap one's mind around, and if totally grasped, can virtually unhinge one's mind, once accepting the idea that our perception of a
"concrete, solid" foundation for the world via our perception of it, that is, ideas we accept as facts because of how we perceive and are inculcated
and taught to perceive (if only because everyone we encountered as children while we learning about the world, saw it that way) might have been
misinformed all along, only agreeing that this was the reality of life, because, well,
everyone knows that, silly. Don't take insult at the
way I phrased that, but it is a common response in discussions amongst four yr. olds, pondering the reactions and actions observed in nature, that
seem, well, real, and therefore, obvious. And this is how we reach, evidently, the idea that something is
fact, or at least, the litmus test
we utilize to
accept it as such.
I hope you see what I am getting at here. I'm not sure reality is anything even close to what we believe it is, and belief, by the way, is a whole
other matter here, but plays directly into what we consider fact, and therefore, reality. But, the "fact" is, none of that may be true at all.
And this place we live in may be totally designed, layer upon layer, to make sure we never truly determine what the reality is, the truth is, and one
thing I know for sure, after all these years, is a fact is one of the hardest things to define of all things.
Again, I address this in my other thread, Thing One and Thing Two. Hope you'll have time to give it a gander.
Thanks, as always, for the discussion.