More Soldiers Committ Suicide In 2012 Than Killed Fighting The War On Terrorism

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posted on Jan, 1 2013 @ 03:24 PM
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US soldier suicides hit a sad milestone in 2012, outpacing combat deaths as the leading cause of death for American troops.

The tragic number of soldier suicides comes from the Department of the Army, and seem to continue last year’s trend of increasing soldier suicides in US military personnel.

According to data reviewed by CBS, 303 active-duty, Reserve and National Guard soldiers took their own lives through November in the US, versus 212 combat deaths recorded in Afghanistan.

Due the the often-unclear nature of self-inflicted mortal injury, the data reviewed is not entirely clear on precise numbers — but CBS says:

“The Army set a grim new record of 177 potential active-duty cases with 2012 coming to a close on Tuesday – 64 of these cases remain under investigation, 113 have been confirmed.”

In 2011, a record number of soldier suicides were observed as well, and in June, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta addressed the worrying trend and indicated that some of the issues troops face upon their return could be mitigating factors in the increase in suicide:

” … we’re dealing with broader societal issues … Substance abuse, financial distress and relationship problems — the risk factors for suicide — also reflect problems … that will endure beyond war

According to the military-centric site, soldier suicides increased in 2012 despite increased awareness of the growing issue




posted on Jan, 1 2013 @ 03:29 PM
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No new news here, welcome to war! this is most outcomes of war. Majority of people kill themselves for a pathetic idea of what they are told their country is.



posted on Jan, 1 2013 @ 03:31 PM
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I soppose the numbers speak for themselves. STOP WAR.Tptb would just call it collateral damage.

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posted on Jan, 1 2013 @ 03:46 PM
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This is only my opinion- I think it is the shots they make them take! I dated 2 guys that were sent to the Middle East and they are still sick. I have also read information that they are going to implement the use of RFID, I do not think that will go down very well. I also know an ex-military guy whom has just ran off. I asked the immediate family, why have they not filed a missing persons report? They would not answer me. All of this saddens me!! I feel they should raise the active duty age to 30. They should increase the age limit for entry to 45. Children should not be out fighting a war in any country! I consider anyone under the age of 30 as a child!!



posted on Jan, 1 2013 @ 03:47 PM
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Maybe as per the gun control madness and the lack of critical thinking skills of people, here is another example of Big Pharm and our government getting away with murder........


Perpetual warfare has taken its toll on the young American service men and women the U.S. enlists to maintain its global empire. According to figures recently disclosed by the U.S. Army surgeon general to The Los Angeles Times, “more than 110,000 active-duty Army troops last year were taking prescribed antidepressants, narcotics, sedatives, antipsychotics and anti-anxiety drugs. Nearly 8% of the active duty Army is now on sedatives and more than 6% is on antidepressants—an eightfold increase.”


Source

But as usual, the MSM goverment whores, won't bring these facts to the attention of the American people! Big Pharm is untouchable, and until we hold them responsible for their "legal poisons" this kind of thing will just keep getting worse.......



posted on Jan, 1 2013 @ 03:50 PM
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Maybe if the government stops experimenting on them to create their "super soldier" then they'll stop killing themselves.



posted on Jan, 1 2013 @ 03:59 PM
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I can't imagine what soldiers must feel after constant time away from not just America, but away from their spouses, children and family. Some miss the birth of their kid(s) as they get sent on multiple tours. How can you build a relationship with your spouse and children when you are never home? Then those that are actually in combat zones and the carnage they see on a regular basis... and what that does to one's mind and soul. Then they arrive back home to a family that doesn't recognize them, because they can't properly deal with the images they've seen and what they had to do; and they don't get proper support from the government they fought years to protect. And they come home to find their own government ripping the constitution to shreads. They come home unrecognizable to an unrecognizable home. It's no wonder.

Truly sad and unfortunate. And their families and young children must continue on without their brother, spouse, nephew, uncle or father. Why... What for? There is NO satisfactory answer.

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posted on Jan, 1 2013 @ 04:19 PM
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This is what happens when good men and women are suckered into signing their lives away, and later realizing that who they signed their lives away too are pure evil who couldnt give any less of a damn about them than they already do now. Not that war is not bad enough to cause suicide, but figuring out youve been duped and have potentially murdered for the benefit of a few wicked individuals, and not for the well being of your country as you were lyingly told, that is a tremendous burden for a good heart to bear.

Drugs, alcohol, a wrecked personality for life, severe depression, and suicide are some natural responses for good hearts to having caused unnecessary death and destruction (directly or indirectly), but knowing youve done so under false pretenses amplifies the burden drastically beyond what would be "normal".
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posted on Jan, 1 2013 @ 04:38 PM
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Don't be silly, a 30 year old man just might question orders.
We don't want thinkers, we want mur....err doers.
I agree, 18 is waaaay too young to make some decisions.
Otherwise, we'd be able to have full on police @ 18 here in the US.



posted on Jan, 1 2013 @ 04:48 PM
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This is a result of fighting a war against an ideology and not a country.

It never ends.

You can conquer a country. Take their flag. Occupy a nation.

But how do you "occupy" an ideology? A thought process? How do you occupy a cultural mindset?

A book I would recommend.

"The Forever War". by Joe Haldeman. It was written in 1974, but is still VERY relevant today.



posted on Jan, 1 2013 @ 05:06 PM
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while setting my opinions on soldiers aside, could this be a part of tptb plan? kinda like american made cars , after so long they pretty much self destruct , so ya have to by a new one. how many less soldiers will have to be treated for the after effects on what they have done and gone through? how many less stories on homeless veterans will the gov have to ignore or pretend they are are trying to solve?



posted on Jan, 1 2013 @ 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by stupid girl
Maybe if the government stops experimenting on them to create their "super soldier" then they'll stop killing themselves.


That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Combat stress, multiple deployments between PCS, financial issues, relationship problems. These things stack up. Being in the military isn't for everybody. Alot of the people in today were pushed through for the war effort in Iraq and the ramp up in Afghanistan. It takes a certain kind of person to be able to balance military life with every other aspect of life. Most people can't do that.

I'm in the Army. I see these things. I know why it happens. The fact that paranoid people believe this is a result of some kind of Hollywood plot experiment cheapens the lives lost.



posted on Jan, 1 2013 @ 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by projectvxn

Combat stress, multiple deployments between PCS, financial issues, relationship problems. These things stack up. Being in the military isn't for everybody. Alot of the people in today were pushed through for the war effort in Iraq and the ramp up in Afghanistan. It takes a certain kind of person to be able to balance military life with every other aspect of life. Most people can't do that.

I'm in the Army. I see these things. I know why it happens. The fact that paranoid people believe this is a result of some kind of Hollywood plot experiment cheapens the lives lost.


I have to agree with the above. Military people commit suicide for the same reasons as non-military people. Add to that the stress of military life, and those issues become much greater.

Another interesting thought: controlling for demographics, military suicide rate may not be that much higher than the average.
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It is difficult to get good, solid numbers prior to 1980, when the DOD started tranking servicemember suicide rates, but several studies and authors have show huge spikes in suicided in wartime vets. KW vets were just as likely to commit suicide as Vietnam vets, for example.

I think that it rather obvious that the stress of deployments and wartime op-tempo would increase and exacerbate personal problems and would lead to an increase of suicides.



posted on Jan, 1 2013 @ 05:55 PM
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LOL...okay.

If you truly believe that the government has never used the military for experimentation-- psychological, medical, technological or otherwise-- then I have no argument with you.

I'm not saying ALL military is experimented on, or half my family would have blown their brains out by now.
The stresses of being in the military have always been present. The way these stresses are personally handled seems to be changing factor.



posted on Jan, 1 2013 @ 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by stupid girl
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LOL...okay.

If you truly believe that the government has never used the military for experimentation-- psychological, medical, technological or otherwise-- then I have no argument with you.

I'm not saying ALL military is experimented on, or half my family would have blown their brains out by now.
The stresses of being in the military have always been present. The way these stresses are personally handled seems to be changing factor.



Has never? No, I can't say "has never" as there is a lot of evidence that it had in the past. Now? Very doubtful, and certainly not on that sort of scope. Just to get a teeny medical study through the DOD is very difficult.



posted on Jan, 1 2013 @ 06:14 PM
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Well thats kind of ironic. You enlist knowing you COULD be killed in combat and then kill yourself because it sucks. Whats the % there, like .3%? Isn't much higher than the average national percentage I don't think.

Here is what I don't get.. Why would ANYONE have enlisted in the passed 8 years? Anyone with 1/2 a brain can see the wars we are in have nothing to do with protecting the country anymore. Maybe 303 people found out they would soon be fighting & detaining the very people they are suppose to be protecting and after hearing the news couldn't hack it.



posted on Jan, 1 2013 @ 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by g146541
reply to post by Apollo7
 


Don't be silly, a 30 year old man just might question orders.
We don't want thinkers, we want mur....err doers.
I agree, 18 is waaaay too young to make some decisions.
Otherwise, we'd be able to have full on police @ 18 here in the US.


yep, that`s what i was i was thinking, we couldn`t have an all volunteer military if the age was raised to 30 because most 30 year olds are smart enough to know that joining the military would be a very foolish thing to do.We would have to reinstate the draft and that wouldn`t go over real well with the public.



posted on Jan, 1 2013 @ 09:54 PM
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figuring out you've been duped and have potentially murdered for the benefit of a few wicked individuals, and not for the well being of your country


I tend to think this is the reason for the high suicide, though the army is rough at any time. If you figure out that you're fighting for imperialism and/or corporate profits, instead of protecting America that could be very damaging to people who've always believed that America is virtuous.



posted on Jan, 1 2013 @ 10:42 PM
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As sad as this is to say - perhaps when the soldiers who have committed suicide deplete the armed services to teh extent that they are no longer an 'army' maybe then war will become obsolete.

Sad sad day when any human commits suicide.

Much Peace...for the soldiers who saw the truth and could not manage the burden of their actions...



posted on Jan, 2 2013 @ 12:32 AM
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my cousin just recently joined the national guard and he told me that they injected him with something to take the feeling go away from the heels of his feet. what is that all about?
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