I have long been interested in the history of the world and how it relates to here and now and think theres a lot to be learnt from the fall of the
Roman Empire so much so that I looked into studying it in the UK. We have quite a legacy really, one in particular thats not too important but just
what happened in Canterbury where I want to live one day. The Romans just left, like the US from Vietnam or Iraq. Court buildings became farmers
barns. They really did leave us and it had a massive impact, order just vanished and we entered what is known as the dark ages.
However, thats something else. The main reason for my post is to bring reference to the concept of Complexity. I watched this You Tube video and
became convinced that OUR modern world will collapse, not just the US, but all modern constructs, mainly because of complexity.
Complexity is all about the amount of effort we have to put in to get something worthwhile out. Its a very doomsday type video BUT its very academic
Essentially the Roman Empire was too complex. By the end they had far too many civil servantrs and laws and taxes and had compromised on so much
inflation that they just fell apart. Obviously the video says it better than me, but whilst the OPs points are valid, they are all symptons of
Just look at your house, you NEED electricity, telecoms, water, post, and all sorts of complex structures just to attach you to the real world. Each
system is becoming more and more involved.
Lookl at the car. We used to walk everywhere, now we need a car, but cars are not as simple as they were, they need people to make them, to service
them, tyo make parts for them. I know it might sound daft, but what if someone forgot to make any more spark plugs? That wont happen, BUT its a
reasonable argument because we cant just fix cars now. You need specialist tools to take proprietry parts out. 50 years ago you had one set of
spanners. In England they went from Imperial to metric, in the US you still have Imperial, but now you have alan keys, hex keys, star keys and all
sorts of fasteners that having all the right tools is a 'complex' accomplishment. Further, you need CO2 monitors, spectrographic monitors, computer
interfacing tools for microchip carburation setting. In short its so complex that mechanics cant do their job. Its fair enough to say we can teach
them, BUT ther point is, not everyone wants to be a mechanic, and the people with the brains to do so choose to be rock stars or movie stars, and we
end up with no car mechanics and no sewerage attendents and none of the basic skills to manage our ever increasing complex society.
Just look how Chicago is going.
I dont think that its fair to say the US is like Rome persay. I think there are higher concerns, such as complexity.
The video details how society has grown from one invention to the next. The agricultural revolution, the industrial revolution, the internet, but each
new step is becoming more and more difficult to get to. The video from memory states that all the low hanging fruit has gone. I was reading Nortons
History of Modern Europe today and it reffers to how Galileo revolutionised astonomy by using a brand new invention, the telescope. One man, and he
'reported' on the equivelent of the scientific journals of the time that the moon had surface features and WASNT LIGHTER THAN AIR as aristotle had
described. The point is, that was an easy leap forward, we could all have done that research if we had a telescope. But what can one man do now?
Nothing, its too complex. You need entire department laboratories working on very small single steps forward. You cant work on DNA in your greenhouse
The point is that the amount of effort required to get to the next step is going top be not worth ther results and no one is going to pay for it.
Personally I think of of the issues of Rome and complexity as the course of its fall in the same way I do my own encroaching senality.
As a person I live a complex life. I get up, check my email, read some forums, pay bills, do some work, tend the garden. If I had kids id take them to
school, fix the car, shop etc etc. As I get older, I cant do so much. Getting up and making coffe is all I can be bothered to do. I dont check my mail
until later as its to complicated. It might sound odd (and im not actually that senile) but some of the things we take for granted become more
difficult. We fail to do it all. Eventually we cant even go to the toilet, we do it in our pants.
To conclude, all im saying is that I think the issue of complexity makes it easier to understand why Western society will collapse like Rome. Hope
that makes sense. It makes sense to me.