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Originally posted by ownbestenemy
reply to post by neo96
Except...its sitting in the House so none of that is effective; yet. Just because it passed in the Senate doesn't mean it is going to coast through the House.
Originally posted by neo96
Originally posted by ownbestenemy
reply to post by neo96
Except...its sitting in the House so none of that is effective; yet. Just because it passed in the Senate doesn't mean it is going to coast through the House.
Pretty sure it will both house and senate are more concerned with their jobs than the future of this country.
To that I agree. Boehner, Reid, McConnell and Obama were just finding where they can square the blame away. My guess further threats of loss of committee assignments will be handed down by Lord Boehner.
Best case scenario at this moment is some representatives can garner some amendment support to kick it back to the Senate. Other than that, its all a joke.
Originally posted by neo96
Honestly? Who did not see this coming?
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Taxes raised on those who make more than 450,000 which is small business owners who are the largest employers of Americans.
The pay roll tax cut supposedly expires wonder if that means the middle class will start paying 6% again instead of the 4%.
Capital gains went up to 20% which includes money markets,mutual funds, and pension funds even the middle class has those up to the first (forget the amount).
The estate tax is now 40% which is double taxation. up to 10 million more middle class tax hikes.
The we have obama care kicking in which whiped out anything those "genius" just signed.
Mark Vitner ... at Wells Fargo, said he expects budget policy ... to shave 0.8 percentage points off economic growth in 2013.
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The biggest hit to the economy is expected to come from the end of a two-year Social Security tax cut. The so-called payroll tax is scheduled to bounce back up to 6.2 percent from 4.2 percent in 2011 and 2012, amounting to a $1,000 tax increase for someone earning $50,000 a year.
"Even with this deal, fiscal policy will still be a net drag on economic growth," Vitner said. "The expiration of the payroll tax holiday will reduce after-tax income for all workers and hit lower to middle income families the hardest."
Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's Analytics, calculates that the higher payroll tax will reduce economic growth by 0.6 percentage points in 2013.
... President Barack Obama vowed Monday to seek additional revenue next year alongside spending cuts.
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Obama made clear that he would demand additional revenue as part of any package next year.
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“Revenues have to be part of the equation in turning off the sequester, as well as spending cuts,” Obama said.
Originally posted by ownbestenemy
reply to post by jdub297
I love that line....more revenue. I guess $2.9 trillion in taxes (from all sources).....er revenue is not enough to fund the proper and valid governmental function. What an crock.
2011 Tax Receipts: $2.9 trillion in direct "revenue"
2011 Spending: $3.6 trillion
Yep...seems like a revenue problem and nothing to do with the gluttonous, grotesque, out of control, ridiculously asinine use of public monies....edit on 1-1-2013 by ownbestenemy because: Sorry it was 3.6 not 3.8 all is well now!
Originally posted by beezzer
Sorry, had to offer a possible correction.
It's no longer taxes, nor "revenue".
It's "tribute".
I have. When will you wake up and stand up? If you are awake, why do you permit this?
Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by beezzer
One day Beez..........
One day people will HAVE to wake up!
Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by DarthMuerte
I am awake brother.
Im waiting for a million of us Patriots walking down to Congress, with our weapons.
We don't even have to even fire a shot.......