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Originally posted by Jason88
Here's a clearer photo:
I don't want to be that member, but...as I recall the photo is from a movie in the 1960s called "Valley of the Gwangi" - a silly cowboy/dinosaur movie. Source: www.imdb.com...
Edit: Here's a plot summary.
Cowboy James Franciscus seeks fame and fortune by capturing a Tyrannosaurus Rex living in the Forbidden Valley and putting it in a Mexican circus. His victim, called the Gwangi, turns out to have an aversion to being shown in public.
Anyways, I wish it was true tooedit on 2-1-2013 by Jason88 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Jason88
reply to post by Frocharocha
I dug deeper, and it turns out this picture comes from the North American BioFortean Review in a story entitled, "Dinos in the U.S.A. ~ A Summary of North American Bipedal 'Lizard' Reports" by Chad Arment (yr: 2000).
Real source (with big picture): www.strangeark.com...
There are more fun pictures in this story plus the origins of where this picture came from and the author's belief of what may be happening with these "river lizards".
I let the folks at ATS read it rather than pull out the highlights - enjoy!
edit on 3-1-2013 by Jason88 because: (no reason given)
Looking at the photo, it would be very easy to jump to the conclusion that this is
good evidence for such an animal. Unfortunately, that isnÕt the case. It is just too
easy to fake photos and create models, even if they look incredibly life-like. In no
case should a photograph or video be accepted as anything other than circumstantial
evidence. (This is one problem I have with folks who are spending so much energy
on trying to photograph Bigfoot; it doesnÕt matter how good the photo is, it isnÕt going
to prove anything.) I do have some problems with the way the ÒlizardÓ looks. I donÕt
see why the tail wouldnt just hang straight down if the animal was recently shot, or
why the mouth would still be open to that extent. Most dead reptiles are very limpimmediately after death. Frankly, this could very easily be a rubber model. I did ask
the individual to consider catching a specimen, so who knows? It really shouldnÕt be
difficult to catch such a reptile if it exists.
In the past few years, several groups working independently have begun to awaken the dormant dinosaur DNA present in one of the extinct creatures' descendents: chickens, whose genome is fully sequenced. Led by Horner, the scientists hope to eventually grow a chicken that has teeth, scales, a tail, and forelimbs. In a word, they want to build a "dinochicken," and it'll be pretty darn close to the real thing...
First, in 2005, developmental biologists John Fallon and Matt Harris at the University of Wisconsin were experimenting with mutant chicken embryos when they noticed strange protuberances emerging from the chicken fetus's jaws. The bumps turned out to be saber-shaped teeth identical to those of embryonic alligators.
The toothy chicken embryos were mutants — they possessed a recessive gene that kills fetuses before they're born. As a side effect (unrelated to how it killed them), that gene was switching on another one that has lain dormant in chickens' evolutionary line for at least 70 million years: an ancient dinosaur tooth gene. Fallon and Harris created a virus that behaved similarly to the lethal recessive gene present in the mutant chickens, but without being deadly. When they inserted the virus into normal chicken embryos, they grew teeth.
Later, a paleontologist named Hans Larsson at McGill University found that chicken embryos' start out with tails. At a certain point in a chick's development, a genetic switch flips and the tail goes away. Using growth hormones to try to override the stoppage, Larsson and his colleagues are attempting to flip the switch back (though they haven't done so yet).
In the same vein, Horner believes chicken embryos can eventually be genetically manipulated to develop forearms instead of wings. "The absence of a tail, the difference between wings and grasping forearms, and the absence of teeth are all subtle evolutionary changes on a basic dinosaur plan," he wrote in a book he co-authored with James Gorman called "How to Build a Dinosaur" (Dutton 2009).