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posted on Jan, 2 2013 @ 07:00 PM
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if this was in an apartment building, you could verify with the other tenants whether strange goings on are indeed being observed.

Just listening to the first video.

documenting is important too. Then get a psychic in there to disperse the unwanted presence.




posted on Jan, 2 2013 @ 07:12 PM
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Originally posted by reject
if this was in an apartment building, you could verify with the other tenants whether strange goings on are indeed being observed.

Just listening to the first video.

documenting is important too. Then get a psychic in there to disperse the unwanted presence.


Where do you people get that you need a psychic to dispel the spirits? Each and every one of us have power over these spirits. We have spirit AND a body! We don't have to fear them, they fear US when we walk in truth, love, and pure intent. You need either a holy man/woman or you can do it yourself! Just because someone is "psychic" doesn't mean they can get rid of spirits. If it is an evil spirit, do you actually think it CARES if there is a psychic or not?



posted on Jan, 2 2013 @ 07:30 PM
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I think the OP has handled the situation perfectly.

No need for snake charmers and crystal-rubbing melodrama.

I've NEVER met a "psychic" that wasn't high on him/herself.

"Psychic" throws up red flags, and buries the needle on my BS meter.



posted on Jan, 2 2013 @ 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by reject
if this was in an apartment building, you could verify with the other tenants whether strange goings on are indeed being observed.

Just listening to the first video.

documenting is important too. Then get a psychic in there to disperse the unwanted presence.


The action seems to center on the young female. Fiance does not seem to have encountered anything other than baby sounds (and we caught this on almost every recording).

It would be a good idea to ask neighbors. Thank you for suggestion.



posted on Jan, 2 2013 @ 08:13 PM
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Originally posted by SecretGoldfish

Wait a minute . . . weren't YOU the one who just yesterday welcomed 'any and all reactions' . . ???

Now I'm being 'judgmental' for suggesting you should make efforts to increase the audio quality of future investigations?

For real?

Yes, I had a hard time getting through the accent . . . and NOT solely because of the accent itself (I lived in NC for 3 years and do understand 'southern') but primarily due to the poor audio quality of the interview. Are you so enamored of your gear that you can't take a minor suggestion of upgrading your mic w/o calling me judgmental?

My reaction was, and still is, that you need to upgrade your mic. Upgrading your recorder is fine, but if you're not efficiently picking up sub-audible sounds then it doesn't matter what recorder you use or what software you analyze with.

And what picks up sound?

The mic.

AND it will cost far far far less than that fancy 1-2,000 dollar Canon you're talking about.

It would also help tremendously with your staged interviews, making them much cleaner and clearer, which would be a great help to judgmental types such as myself who struggled with your current recording system.

With a group like yours who is on a budget but want to use EVP as a tool, a good mic is bottom line one of -- if not the -- most cost effective investments you can make.

re: "Aunt Ginny hits the floor . . . " could be, but it bears absolutely no relationship to the question that was posed, which was IIRC 'why are you in the baby's room' or something along those lines. Being jealous fits the question question much better, and could even explain the connection between the living mother who had lost a child (stillborn) and possibly a deceased mother who also lost a child.

But that's just my 'reaction' so take it as you please.


edit on 2-1-2013 by SecretGoldfish because: (no reason given)


Your comments are welcome, but the comment on the accent sounded judgmental to me. You do make good points about needing better audio.

The pointers from all who have noted on interview are taken to heart, thank you.

I already took it upon myself to invest in upgrading the audio. That was my first purchase. I got a good tascam recorder on a wonderful sale for Christmas gift to myself. I didn't have it at the time of this investigation. We will next time


The "interview" was impromptu and was not ment to go this long. I was just looking for a five minute overview and it ballooned because client got so emotional. The camera I was using was my sony a55 dslr which can't record video more than five minutes at a time.

EVP I can hear both ways. My initial thought was "jealous" as well. Most important point to me is it is clear on the spectrograph and wave form and clear to hear. It is voice that was not present in the room. This confirms clients assertions of paranormal activity and moves case away from just being a mental health issue.



posted on Jan, 2 2013 @ 08:22 PM
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Originally posted by hellobruce

Originally posted by pianopraze

The blinking one is called a ghost meter pro and i am not that familiar with it. The other researcher brought it.


They got ripped off1



I turned my unboxed meter I was given as a gift over to a specialist who will be better able to tell me exactly what is going on and if I personally need to assume all the Q&A is out the _ My first thought was it was too good to be true so I sought help with someone with a specialty in electronics. I'm waiting for his full report

However, it is hard for me to throw this evidence out completely at this point as it was so... accurate and nuanced in the responses, some very strong, some just barely, indicating uncertainty. I think more investigation into this device is called for.

But I agree at this point I have to take a step back from that and look on it with increased skepticism. On mode 3 it functions as a regular EMF meter. I assume now Jan had it on another setting which I was unaware of at the time. I thought it was functioning as a simple EMF meter when this video was recorded.

I will test this mode myself in neutral locations in the future and see what I find, and eagerly await the electronic experts opinion of this device. He has the electronics to figure out exactly what it is doing and why.



posted on Jan, 2 2013 @ 08:26 PM
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Originally posted by AllenBishop
Here's a cheater's tip for good audio on a budget:

If you, or anyone on your team has an iPhone, the built in voice recorder does extremely well for a no-cost solution.

Both myself, and a research associate, have been able to capture EVPs with the Voice Memos app, and I've used it, to good effect, for interviewing witnesses.

It isn't a substitute for my Roland R-26, but I have used it, with great results. YMMV...

Most on-board camera microphones are a joke.

Also, and this is just one guy's opinion, but I agree with the previous poster on audio being the most important piece of equipment in the Hunter's toolbox.

EVPs, without a doubt, are the only consistent evidence I've been able to capture. To the point that I sold my FLIR unit to upgrade my audio capabilities.



Agree and already purchased a good tascam recorder for future events.

I have been on 2 hunts so far. Both we captured good EVP's.

The first One was to Diamond Pointe Visitor Center in Harrodsburg Ky and the night of the hunt I didn't really think we caught much. I

got home and went through all the tapes and was extreemly surprised to find we caught EVPs! Here is a link to the thread where I posted that evidence: ATS thread link



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 03:57 AM
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Originally posted by Jameliel

Originally posted by reject
if this was in an apartment building, you could verify with the other tenants whether strange goings on are indeed being observed.

Just listening to the first video.

documenting is important too. Then get a psychic in there to disperse the unwanted presence.


We don't have to fear them, they fear US when we walk in truth, love, and pure intent. You need either a holy man/woman or you can do it yourself! Just because someone is "psychic" doesn't mean they can get rid of spirits. If it is an evil spirit, do you actually think it CARES if there is a psychic or not?
So, you are saying the victims in this particular situation aren't "in truth, love, and pure intent?"

How do you define "holy?' catholic? Islam? Buddhist? hindu? wiccan?


There are very strong psychics who know what they are doing. If this is real, those are psychic beings and that is a psychic attack.



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 04:06 AM
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Yes, I am saying the "victims" are not fully walking in holiness, truth and light. They do not have to be fully "holy", but they do need to be aware of the truth and light. They have to show this and not show fear.

This is not about being religious or belonging to a religion. Truth is truth and positive power is positive power. You seem to be referring to "psychic" as mental or spiritual. Of course they attack all levels they can attack, even the physical in some cases if able.

The truth is, we have a body and a spirit, and we have power through God/The Source. Now if you don't believe in a God/Source at all, then good luck in getting rid of them. I'm sure you can hunt around til you find some story where someone who didn't believe in God still managed to get rid of them, but I will await you to do so, and prove documented activity ever existed in the first place.

Psychics and priests dont make these things go away. The truth and assertiveness in the truth do. What these people are doing for the victims is good. Hopefully the entities are not so powerful as to require more. If they are, then hopefully the victims can recognize their own power and who they are. Then using this, they can drive them away.


Originally posted by reject

Originally posted by Jameliel

Originally posted by reject
if this was in an apartment building, you could verify with the other tenants whether strange goings on are indeed being observed.

Just listening to the first video.

documenting is important too. Then get a psychic in there to disperse the unwanted presence.


We don't have to fear them, they fear US when we walk in truth, love, and pure intent. You need either a holy man/woman or you can do it yourself! Just because someone is "psychic" doesn't mean they can get rid of spirits. If it is an evil spirit, do you actually think it CARES if there is a psychic or not?
So, you are saying the victims in this particular situation aren't "in truth, love, and pure intent?"

How do you define "holy?' catholic? Islam? Buddhist? hindu? wiccan?


There are very strong psychics who know what they are doing. If this is real, those are psychic beings and that is a psychic attack.



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 04:10 AM
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Tagging.

Will get back to this thread when I get a chance. Sounds neat !!



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 05:47 AM
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I must admit, he is a wonderful gentlemen and it was just by chance or destiny or by the stars that brougnt Mr. Piano men to my group. My team has benefited alot from his tech skills but even more so for his insight & being a skeptic. I just hope he never leaves my team to move on to some other team. I do tease him the we are now a "package deal" if he gets asked to join another team that I must go with him.



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 05:54 AM
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Thank you very much for your suggestion. We have been talking about getting mics but just have not gotten them yet. I will move that up on our equipment priorty list.



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 06:19 AM
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Whe I received my paranormal training (yes, I took a class and I am a certified paranormal investigator). The class was given by a very well respected individual in the paranoramal field. The instructions were when doing investigations was to use mode #4. That is the only mode we use for out investigations.



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 11:58 AM
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Originally posted by Jannell03
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Whe I received my paranormal training (yes, I took a class and I am a certified paranormal investigator). The class was given by a very well respected individual in the paranoramal field. The instructions were when doing investigations was to use mode #4. That is the only mode we use for out investigations.


I will go through and try to recreate this nuanced response with it in a neutral (non paranormal) location. If it just does random responses without nuances I will be more prone to fully accept this again and view it as white noise. Many investigators suggest that having white noise makes it easier for spirits to communicate, it is possible that this thing can act as such a catalyst.

But it must be viewed with more skepticism until such point as that can be established. We need to get some "baseline" session in a non paranormal location to see if the meter was actually responding to some sort of paranormal control or just randomly generating responses.

Apparently mode 3 is a very good EMF meter, the negative reviewer was even surprised by how well it picked up magnetic fields.



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 12:51 PM
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Hi Piano, I have had no real experiences which I can say for certain were paranormal experiences.

My first moment of wondering was a few days after my Father had passed away in the spare room of the apartment I was staying in at that time. I was lying in bed and drifting off to sleep waiting for my girlfriend at the time to finish up in the bathroom. I noticed a black misty object in the top corner of the room. As I looked at it it melted away and I always wrote it down as a shadow from the nearby _ I fell asleep and talk sometimes of that night with my then girlfriend but now my Wife.

I married my girlfriend and a month later moved into a new apartment where I was awoken one night with the loud sound of someone saying "DUH" in my ear. I had woken up and heard the sound and noticed my Wife walking around to my side of the bed. I asked her what she was doing and she told me that before I had woken up there were five "DUH" sounds and I had awoken on the sixth one. I fell asleep and we speak even today of that night.

February 2012 I awoke again in the new apartment with my Wife crawling over my head screaming in bed. I grabbed her and tried to calm her down asking what was wrong and she while sobbing told me something had touched her foot in the night. In so waking her up and she said she saw a black shadowy figure standing at the base of our bed. My Wife was really terrified and it took over an hour to calm her down. I have too this day never seen someone so afraid in all my life ladies and gents. We eventually fell asleep and have spoken about that night a number of times.

A week later after the bed incident I woke up early one morning and walked into the kitchen to make coffee. My Wife was still asleep. When I entered the room I noticed that there were a number of knives and forks which were lying on the floor. This did not bother me as we have three cats and my first thought was they had knocked over the stuff in the evening. Until I picked up one spoon which had fallen. This spoon was bent. I mean really bent. 90 degree bent. Besides the fact that the spoon was made of quality stainless steel and no fall from a counter top would have caused the spoon to bend in that way.

This was the final straw and I invited a medium into our home. She poured course salt in all the openings except one in our home. She burnt incense and said a few words. She also went to all four corners of the building in which we live and blessed them.

Since then I myself walked around our home alone and spoke very clearly and seriously and told whatever was there that I did not want to wage war on it. I just wanted to live in peace and never to let my Wife or myself feel fear in our own homes ever again.

The medium said it was a little kid playing tricks on us and wanting our attention. Since that day with the medium we have had maybe one or two incidents which we could question and put into the paranormal bracket. Since then nothing. Not a sign or a noise. No weird touching my Wife at night. No talking into my ear until I wake up. Nothing. Just peace and harmony.

Touch wood



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 04:36 PM
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Thank you very much for your positive feedback. We do have some more investigations pending. So please stay tune.



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 04:42 PM
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That is a very interesting experience you & your wife had. I hope that the case we are currently working on has a good outcome too. Thank you for sharing your story with us.



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 05:58 PM
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Just as an FYI, and I am speaking for myself, my faith is strong and I know that GOD is always at my side. His love shows all around me. The hand of GOD protects me. I was in a car wreck in early December and did not receive a scratch. My SUV on the other hand had a different outcome.

When we started on this case this woman was distraught and felt she had no one to turn to. Her initial phone call to me reflected the fear in her voice. From the time on the initial phone call to the start of the time that we completed collecting the evidence you could see a total change in this woman. At the closure of that evening we did a spiritual cleansing & blessing of her home and her. All of this happened within 48 hours from her initial phone call. We are proving her with other contacts to help her with other issue too.

We empowered her with positive information, prayers and taught her about the light that is within her and through her faith in GOD she has strength and power to help herself through anything. Her total outlook changed as she went from feeling helpless & powerless to feeling positive and good about herself.

When we entered her home the air felt thick, heavy and stifling. By the time we completed the investigation and the blessings there was a change in the air there. It no longer felt negative but her home had a lighter feeling. The change in the environment even surprised me for I had never experienced that before.

I am not asking anyone to believe what happened that evening, or the evidence that is being presented. That is your choice. This woman, a victim her entire life felt she had no one that would care, listen or even help her in any way now knows there are people here to help her.

We all have are dark days but with the knowledge that with GOD all things are possible we all can make a difference. With this woman & her family we did.

Thank you for your comment.



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 06:19 PM
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Sounds like you're off to a good start . . .

Good luck, stay skeptical, and stay safe.



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 07:32 PM
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I guess you could look at our group as not being the "regular" types or groups that just go for the hunt. We go to provide a service (free of charge) to help those that are asking for help. If the investigation reveals more than this team can provide we have a list of resources that are willing to assist if we ask.

With that being stated, If someone just wants us to come in to validate what they are experiencing may or may not be paranormal based on what the evidence reveals then we will do that to.

So I guess you could call us unique. We are here to provide a service to those requesting help and to those that are just wanting to know but doesn't want anything else done. We are here to help not to harm.





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