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Originally posted by ecapsretuo
By becoming masters of our own minds can we be free from alien control. We may attain consciousness of a higher order to supersede the alien control. The authority which the aliens have taken is merely over the lower, animal and emotional Mind. It can be our choice, and is within our power, to answer only to a purely positive and absolute Being.
Originally posted by ThinkingHuman
Think or Believe – this is your choice. None other.
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Originally posted by FormerSkeptic
Originally posted by ThinkingHuman
Think or Believe – this is your choice. None other.
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I agree on the basic premise.
But for me it's not mutually exclusive — for I think *and* I believe.
More precisely, I think first, then I believe, then I think again, then I either disbelieve or believe stronger. And so on and so forth. Also, I communicate...
In the end, we may all just be players in an infinite game of power and control. Those who have power control those who don't. Simple as that. And it doesn't matter what anybody else thinks or believes.
Originally posted by ThinkingHuman
...But you realize that I was trying to make a point by making the distinction. Reflecting about your comment, “believe” is what you do when you accept, or take over, somebody else’s thinking.
E.g. do you believe in the Big Bang?
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Everything that comes from government and (organized) religion is somebody else’s. They can (and do) control your belief, but your thinking they can not.
But why stop there? ...
What can you really know? What do you THINK you really know?
Not just the Big Bang theory. But that person who you think is your Father.
Literally everything is somehow communicated to you through intelligible thoughts ...
Can anybody really develop into a functioning adult without accepting the thoughts of others whatsoever?
Or is it about Empiricism?
At some point you get drowned in the depths of philosophy.
Originally posted by ThinkingHuman
Actually I do not stop at Kant nor Empiricism. ...Knowledge is impossible, 100%.
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It seems obvious to me that the end result (our history book) is unreliable, to say the least...
...Again, nothing can be known, which is why mutually exclusive theories can be maintained...
...Yes, we must also "believe" information provided to us by others - but only basic (mechanical) information from neutral sources...
And btw, what would be your reaction if scientific data (like the 9 months thing) pops up that causes you to ask your parents (biased participant "observers") and they avoid to answer your questions?
I do not "believe" alien or UFO accounts, I "think" aliens exist because of (mechanical) data about quarrying and placing 1000 ton rocks in Baalbek.
Originally posted by FormerSkeptic
Is your "believing" really mutually exclusive of "thinking?"
Why believe they're neutral?