Originally posted by billyevil
First of all i don't agree that the masons have suffered as much as the jewish people, and trying to establish a link between the two could be seen
as a way to gain sympathy to a group on the same level as that which is deserved by the jewish people.
And no one is claiming that we did... 80,000 Masons is HARDLY comparable with 6 million Jews. HOWEVER, the similarity of treatment is there, and
denying it is the same as the holocaust revisionists, who deny the jews were gassed.
Second, i noticed a comment, "masons are hated by Al Quaida" Now, being hated by a terrorist group doesn't exactly make you the good guys.
Sorry, i disagree. Anything the terrorists hate is a good thing.
Also, this could almost feel like an attempt to align the masons with the victims and good guys in a situation. If you're an american you're
more than likely hated by Al Quaida, even if you're an american serial killer, you're still hated. Does the hate of Al Quaida suddenly make a serial
killer into a good person? I don't think that it does.
Ok, the last part is a good point, but comparing masonry with serial killers is hardly on point, nor associating masons primarily with America. there
are masons in EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD... and being despised by Al Quaida is a good thing as far as I am concerned. Everything right, mete, fit and
proper is opposed by those fools, and I am proud to be included in their list... you can rest assured, they are on MY list.
In all i don't understand why it seems there is a need for the masons to align themselves with other groups in comparison unless it is just to
improve their image, which is understandable, since they have a pretty lousy image.
Actually, truth be told, we have a pretty GOOD image, a fact that we are working to maintain against the lies and deceits of our very few vocal
detractors. Would you like to offer something substantive in your attack on masons, or are you satisfied with empty rhetoric?
But, when you knowingly join a society that has been said to be behind so many shady things it makes alot of people wonder what kind of person
would want to or need to join such a secret group.
Well, it may show that you have more intelligence than the average, who seems to be willing to accept any unsubstantiated accusation that comes down
the pike... or you could know more of the truth than what you are posting... two very simple and obvious alternatives. there are more, but as an
example, i have grown up around masons, my dad, my uncle, my grandfather, great grandfather, great great grandfather, god father are all masons. I
grew up around a group of honorable men, and as an adult, discovered that what all these good men had in common was that they were masons...
Also, why be secret if you're worried about what people think about you? Just come out and lay it all on the table for people. Secrets are
great, but when they become instruments of fear they need to be brought into the light so people can see they have nothing to fear.
We actually have nothing to fear, but it is plain from your post that you do fear masons, becasue we do not reveal all that we do to you. When was the
last time you sat in on a board meeting of Shell Oil, or US Steel, or the National Security Agency, or Ford Motor company, or... ignorance and
xenophobia do not become you... fear of the unknown is common, but an intelligent person moves forward, and acts upon the history.
Masonry has an over 600 year history of service, charity and of making good men better. 28 totally free hospitals in the US and Canada are but a
Finally, taking the word of a mason on the subject is alot like asking a car salesman if his lot has the best deals in town. It's very hard to
believe and trust them due to their reputation and it's hard to think of a good reason to trust them.
Or to trust you, who posts unsupporatble slanders? Why would anyone trust you, posting over the top rhetoric without a shred of example to back it up?
Sorry, old son, but as a mason, I can point to the good and honorable men that make up my fraternity, and the good we have done... you can't point to
anything other than baseless rhetoric.
I'm sure Al Quaida members don't believe that they are evil, so take that into consideration when people make comments about the
Hahahahaha... so, do you consider Al Quaida members to be upright moral and honorable world citizens??? I don't care what they think, that is totally
off the point. I noted that anything a group of killers without souls hates has GOT to be good.
I know i'm new to this site, but i'm not new to these kinds of discussions and i wanted to give my opinions.
Excellent, but if you are not new to these types of discussions, you would know that proof and examples go a lot further than emty rhetoric...
I don't mean to offend anyone, but i think the masons speaking here need to realise that it's hard to take their word.
Sure you meant to offend... that is the raison d'etre of your post... and I don't care if you take my word or not, nor, do I think, do any of us. We
will continue to post facts and truth, and you can post empty rhetoric... lets see who the reading public believes.