reply to post by BlueMule
All I saw here was a lot of dodging, and not very clever dodging either. So, I take it you cannot demonstrate psychic ability, or personal
mythologies. OK, no problem. Was it really so hard to say so?
I also have never asked you to believe in psychic phenomenon or goddesses. I do not impose my spiritual beliefs on anybody else. I'm not like you, I
don't play the victim card when my arguments have run out.
I also have no underlying desire to make my personal religious and spiritual beliefs supersede science and individual free choice. That's something
you want, something you've been (poorly) attempting to do with this whole thread. But you can't do it, because your beliefs are built on unsound
You confuse pseudo-skepticism for doubt. Just as you confused your own desire for spiritual proselytization with my beliefs. But I don't proselytize.
I'll never ask you to believe in my spiritual reality, because it is mine, and not yours.
Go be the victim somewhere else now. I'm just as board with your familiar charade, as you are unable to continue our debate.
reply to post by DerepentLEstranger
As for you...
indeed, apparently the sacrifices performed by some scientists i referenced did not even register within his cortex
In 315 C.E. when Christianity became the legal state-religion of Rome, Christians began slaughtering pagans and non-Christians within the empire en
. For the next 300 years thousands of pagans were slaughtered within Rome in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. This
mindless slaughter gave rise to mobs which tore pagans and philosophers apart, as well as "Temple Destroyers" who's sole purpose was to raze pagan
sites of worship, and kill the acolytes.
In 782 C.E. Charlemagne had 4500 Anglo-Saxons who refused to convert murdered. In Germany between 5,000 and 11,000 pagan men, women, and children were
slaughtered for refusing to pay Church taxes.
Between 1600 A.D. and 1700 A.D. tens of thousands of Irish pagans were slaughtered by Christian missionaries because they were believed to be
uncivilized. The heads of the men were then put on pikes which lined the roads of all of Ireland, This was done as a scare-tactic, and psychological
torment, for the women who were raped, and the children who were then forcibly converted. All of this done by missionaries in the name of God.
I haven't even gotten to the Crusades, or the Inquisition, the Salem Witch Trials, the murder of Gnostic sects, the beatings of African-Americans or
homosexuals, or any of the other wonderful wars waged in the name of God.
Science does lead to deaths, certainly. But there is no comparison between those killed for religious or spiritual ideals, and those who die in the
pursuit of scientific advancement. No comparison.
As for the definition of "science," well, it seems clear that if someone wishes to cast doubt upon something, they need to know first what they're
casting doubt upon. "Science" is a broad generalization. When you attack "science" you attack all of the advancements it has made in biology,
chemistry, physics, engineering, anthropology, and all its other myriad fields.
So, are you casting doubt on "science" or are you trying to cast doubt on a specific branch of science? The answer makes a big difference. Not that
it mattered to you before reading this though, as the idea that there was a difference had never even crossed your mind.
Have fun using a computer without science.
~ Wandering Scribe