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I think reincarnation is to the soul as "foresight" and "hindsight" are to us in this earthly cycle -
Or its just that intution and sooner or later everyone will catch up even if some deny that intution, they'l just take more cycles.
This means the system is rigged for everyone to win. Its just a matter of time.
It makes me wonder, whats the purpose??
It also means that a murderer cant be judged as bad, that poor soul just havent learned that killing is wrong, same for rapists, greedy bankers, religious extremists etc. And the criminals shouldnt be punished because then we are interfering with karma. Maybe we all were murderers before we became better to know that its wrong. A society based on this kind of thinking will collapse within a century!!
Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by logical7
log7,
Did you watch the video that windword posted a page back or so??
It was very interesting, and addressed the idea of how difficult it is to "prove" the idea...
It spoke about Tibetan Buddhists (the Dalai Lama even spoke about halfway through) - Hindus, and even a sect of ISLAM, in Turkey, who believe in reincarnation.
Were you aware there was a Muslim Sect that believed this?
i propose that actually the good/learned souls punishing, are a way of karma to make ignorant souls learn. And in example of murderer, capital punishment is must otherwise karma will have to keep making a murderer just to punish a murderer in his next life.
So a society should be established that has a complete karmic justice system, also absolute no tolerance for immoral behaviour and ensuring equality and respect for each individual.
Originally posted by luciddream
reply to post by logical7
If you open to the branch of reincarnation where you could be born as anything (insects, animals, birds).. then the Karmic system would be perfect.
Your reincarnation host body depends on what you did in previous life. Something like murderers would be born as worms... or something.
Originally posted by luciddream
reply to post by logical7
If you open to the branch of reincarnation where you could be born as anything (insects, animals, birds).. then the Karmic system would be perfect.
Your reincarnation host body depends on what you did in previous life. Something like murderers would be born as worms... or something.
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
I'm going to re-post a video from earlier in the thread. It's a really wonderful video and I recommend everyone watch it. Maybe it'll add to the discussion a bit.
Originally posted by logical7
Originally posted by luciddream
reply to post by logical7
If you open to the branch of reincarnation where you could be born as anything (insects, animals, birds).. then the Karmic system would be perfect.
Your reincarnation host body depends on what you did in previous life. Something like murderers would be born as worms... or something.
and then die but thats not karma unless you think that a worm is lowly and humans better. Also it makes me a murderer if i squish a worm then i killed a soul and i'l be born as a worm and the same loop continues..
Also i would have to become vegetarian.
And if you are just suggesting it, its fine but if you believe it then i hope your are vegetarian.
I do not mean Worm is a lowly creature, as in value of life, but it will be a creature that will be short lived and suffer from more predators than humans would. I'm pretty sure Karma is exempt if you did it without knowing(there is a limit), but stepping on a worm without releasing will not be your fault, but it would the fate of the worm. Hurting something with an intend would give you bad karma, and expecting something in return while doing something good would also not give you "karma points".