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posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 10:18 AM
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With the dismal record of forecasting all the Doom and Gloom displayed for the year 2012 I thought I would ask those much more learned than myself what they thought would transpire for the year 2013.
My forecast: There will be more of the same, some worse and some better. Wars and rumors of wars will accelerate come spring and the economy will muddle along with the haves and have-nots jockeying for security on the world stage. I do not have a crystal ball and am not connected to any off-world enlighten race of sentient beings who give a hoot about mankind so everything I say could and should be taken with a grain of salt.

Approximately 2 years ago I received a chain email to which I reworked and sent back to the sender. It was well received so I thought I would share. Again it was 2 years ago but it appears many things are happening or have come pass. I responded to the talking points that were in the email sent to me by a retired military Col.

I am not motivated to look up all the talking points myself for even a blind person can hear/see what is going on. The Tax and world view is mine and mine alone.
Everyone says "world economy" yet the restrictions on American business is myopic.

A few trends for your consideration

1. The Post Office. They are so deeply in financial trouble that there is probably no way to sustain it long term. Email, Fed Ex, and UPS have just about wiped out the minimum revenue needed to keep the post office alive. Most of your mail every day is junk mail and bills.

2. The Check. Britain is already laying the groundwork to do away with checks by 2018. It costs the financial system billions of dollars a year to process checks. Plastic cards and online transactions will lead to the eventual demise of the check. This plays right into the death of the post office. If you never paid your bills by mail and never received them by mail, the post office would absolutely go out of business.

3. The Newspaper. The younger generation simply doesn't read the newspaper. They certainly don't subscribe to a daily delivered print edition. That may go the way of the milkman and the laundry man. As for reading the paper online, get ready to pay for it. The rise in mobile Internet devices and e-readers has caused all the newspaper and magazine publishers to form an alliance. They have met with Apple, Amazon, and the major cell phone companies to develop a model for paid subscription services.

4. The Book. You say you will never give up the physical book that you hold in your hand and turn the literal pages. I said the same thing about downloading music from iTunes. I wanted my hard copy CD. But I quickly changed my mind when I discovered that I could get albums for half the price without ever leaving home to get the latest music. The same thing will happen with books. You can browse a bookstore online and even read a preview chapter before you buy. And the price is less than half that of a real book. And think of the convenience! Once you start flicking your fingers on the screen instead of the book, you find that you are lost in the story, can't wait to see what happens next, and you forget that you're holding a gadget instead of a book until the battery goes dead.

5. The Land Line Telephone. Unless you have a large family and make a lot of local calls, you don't need it anymore. Most people keep it simply because they've always had it or its sole use is for a security system. But you are paying double charges for that extra service. All the cell phone companies will let you call customers using the same cell provider for no charge against your minutes. There are even companies that allow unlimited everything for less than $60 a month.

6. Music. This is one of the saddest parts of the change story. The music industry is dying a slow death. Not just because of illegal downloading. It's the lack of innovative new music being given a chance to get to the people who would like to hear it. Greed and corruption is part of the problem. The record labels and the radio conglomerates are simply self-destructing. Over 40% of the music purchased today is "catalog items," meaning traditional music that the public is familiar with. Older established artists. This is also true on the live concert circuit. To explore this fascinating and disturbing topic further, check out the book, "Appetite for Self-Destruction" by Steve Knopper, and the video documentary, "Before the Music Dies."

7. Television. Revenues to the networks are down dramatically. Not just because of the economy. People are watching TV and movies streamed from their computers. And they're playing games and doing lots of other things that take up the time that used to be spent watching TV. Prime time shows have degenerated down to lower than the lowest common denominator not to mention the network news shows where many have come to believe the networks are only reporting on what they want you to hear but not the news. Cable rates are skyrocketing and commercials run about every 4 minutes and 30 seconds. Is it time for the cable companies to be put out of their misery? Let the people choose what they want to watch online or through satellite.

8. The "Things" That You Own. Many of the very possessions that we used to own are still in our lives, but we may not actually own them in the future. They may simply reside in "the cloud." Today your computer has a hard drive and you store your pictures, music, movies, and documents. Your software is on a CD or DVD, and you can always re-install it if need be. But all of that is changing. Apple, Microsoft, and Google are all finishing up their latest "cloud services." That means that when you turn on a computer, the Internet will be built into the operating system. So, Windows, Google, and the Mac OS will be tied straight into the Internet. If you click an icon, it will open something in the Internet cloud. If you save something, it will be saved to the cloud. And you may pay a monthly subscription fee to the cloud provider. How about lets make some money!!

In this virtual world, you can access your music or your books, or your whatever from any laptop or handheld device. That's the good news. But, will you actually own any of this "stuff" or will it all be able to disappear at any moment in a big "Poof?" Will most of the things in our lives be disposable and whimsical? It makes you want to run to the closet and pull out that photo album, grab a book from the shelf, or open up a CD case and pull out the insert.

9.Privacy. If there ever was a concept that we can look back on nostalgically, it would be privacy. That's gone. It's been gone for a long time anyway. There are cameras on the street, in most of the buildings, and even built into your computer and cell phone. But you can be sure that 24/7, "They" know who you are and where you are, right down to the GPS coordinates, and the Google Street View even has your house. If you buy something, your habit is put into a zillion profiles, and your ads will change to reflect those habits. And "They" will try to get you to buy something else. Again and again. All we will have that can't be changed are Memories and someone somewhere is probably working on that.

19 Facts About The De-industrialization Of America That should be disturbing!
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posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 10:28 AM
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The United States is rapidly becoming the very first "post-industrial" nation on the globe. All great economic empires eventually bleed themselves to death or die in war; some become fat and lazy and squander the great wealth that their forefathers have left them. The pace at which America is accomplishing this is absolutely amazing. It was America that was at the forefront of the industrial revolution. It was America that showed the world how to mass produce everything from automobiles to televisions and airplanes. It was the great American manufacturing base that crushed Germany and Japan in World War II.

But now we are witnessing the De-industrialization of America .. Hundreds of factories have left the United States in the past decade alone. Millions upon millions of manufacturing jobs have been lost in the same time period. Once upon a time America could literally out produce the rest of the world combined. Today that is no longer true. If the DE-industrialization of America continues at this current pace, what possible kind of a future are we going to be leaving to our children?

Any great nation throughout history has been "great at making things". So if the United States continues to allow its manufacturing base to erode at this staggering pace how in the world, can the U.S. continue to consider itself to be a great nation? We have created the biggest debt bubble in the history of the world through mismanagement of the banking system and the federal reserve. Every single month America goes into more debt and every single month America gets poorer. Update; the debt is a couple of trillion worse now since this writing.

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The above vids are on the players and the models they followed to get us into this mess with the banking crisis. No one criminal or player all just trying to make money. All the Vids are good but 3 and 4 added the cream. Just the known facts are presented without the hype IMO.
The following are 19 facts about the De-industrialization of America continued....

#1 The United States has lost approximately 42,400 factories since 2001. About 75 percent of those factories employed over 500 people when they were still in operation.

#2 Dell Inc., one of Americas largest manufacturers of computers, has announced plans to dramatically expand its operations in China with an investment of over $100 billion over the next decade.

#3 Dell has announced that it will be closing its last large U.S. manufacturing facility in Winston-Salem , North Carolina in November. Approximately 900 jobs will be lost.

#4 In 2008, 1.2 billion cell phones were sold worldwide. So how many of them were manufactured inside the United States? Zero.

#5 According to a new study conducted by the Economic Policy Institute, if the U.S. trade deficit with China continues to increase at its current rate, the U.S. economy will lose over half a million jobs this year alone.

#6 As of the end of July, the U.S. trade deficit with China had risen 18 percent compared to the same time period a year ago.

30 percent to 10.1 million. During that exact same time period, U.S. employment at American multinational corporations declined 8 percent to 21.1 million.

#9 In 1959, manufacturing represented 28 percent of U.S. economic output. In 2008, it represented 11.5 percent.

#10 Ford Motor Company recently announced the closure of a factory that produces the Ford Ranger in St. Paul, Minnesota. Approximately 750 good paying middle class jobs are going to be lost because making Ford Rangers in Minnesota does not fit in with Ford's new "global" manufacturing strategy.

#11 As of the end of 2009, less than 12 million Americans worked in

manufacturing. The last time less than 12 million Americans were employed in manufacturing was in 1941.

#12 In the United States today, consumption accounts for 70 percent of GDP. Of this 70 percent, over half is spent on services.

#13 The United States has lost a whopping 32 percent of its manufacturing jobs since the year 2000.


#14 In 2001, the United States ranked fourth in the world in per capita broad band Internet use. Today it ranks 15th.

#15 Manufacturing employment in the U.S. computer industry is actually lower in 2010 than it was in 1975.

#16 Printed circuit boards are used in tens of thousands of different products. Asia now produces 84 percent of them worldwide.

#17 The United States spends approximately $3.90 on Chinese goods for every $1 that the Chinese spend on goods from the United States.

#18 One prominent economists projecting that the Chinese economy will be three times larger than the U.S. economy by the year 2040.

#19 The U.S. Census Bureau says that 43.6 million Americans are now living in poverty and according to them that is the highest number of poor Americans in the 51 years that records have been kept.



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 10:30 AM
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I agree with everything you said, it's coming. Yet, maybe before 2022, not 2013 bud.



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 10:38 AM
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We're getting a nice close asteroid that may play Billiards with the satellites. We are going to get at least one impressive comet. We will hopefully get more beautiful northern lights before the solar max. We will be having some big solar flares yet which won't do too much damage but may burn out people's computers.

Now the bad part. Stocks will fall, the economies will downturn again. The price of beef and all meats and dairy will increase with the droughts effects finally showing up. 2013 will have many storms that cause harm to our societies around the world. There will be restrictions on the net put in place worldwide in 2013 also, tptb will supply proof of it's misuse and cut it back. Many people will die of food poisoning this coming year also.

The worst thing is that coffee prices will double by the end of 2013



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 10:41 AM
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I think those are pretty accurate but would not hang my hat on the exact numbers.

So how many more factories do we need to lose before we do something about it? The current tax laws and other regulations are driving our companies off shore. Last report there were at least 2.3 trillion dollars in off shore bank accounts that can not be brought back into the States for Capitol investment because of the Capitol gains taxes and penalties. If you are going to invest your money in a venture do you want to do it where every dollar you make there is a built in minimum 35 cents taken by some government...or would you rather do business where they take 15 cents? Business is about making money because if you don't you will not have a business.

How many millions more Americans are going to become unemployed before we all admit that we have a very, very serious problem on our hands?

How many more trillions of dollars are going to leave the country before we realize that we are losing wealth at a pace that is killing our economy?

How many once great manufacturing cities are going to become rotting war zones like Detroit before we understand that we are committing national economic suicide? As long as any government's taxes are out of line with 'what can be had just over the hill' then Houston we got a problem. IT REALLY IS A GLOBAL ECONOMY yet some insist on treating our tax rates like we are not connected to the rest of the world! Every where you go there are people in every country wanting to work and provide for their families; America certainly does not have a monopoly in that area..

The De-industrialization of America is a national crisis. It needs to be treated like one. Why do our industries leave? Why do those that remain choose not to hire new workers? Are some of the reasons from the fear of the unknown and short term inconsistencies that plague the regulatory maze of rules a regulations? There is a big picture out there 'somewhere' but it seems like no Politico Knows where they hung it??

Thank you for those of who watched the videos and understood some of the more non rant points I was trying to make.
It just floors me how the politicians are always saying how we must compete globally yet allow a system to be set up where our companies start out behind and are always trying to play catch-up. They (the companies) finally figured it out and just moved! It is not personal; they are looking for a business advantage or realize they will not be able to compete and more doors will be closed.

I met 4 Chinese guys at my hotel last year on an over seas trip. I struck up a conversation; they spoke better English than I and two of them worked for an American company in China.

The country I was in (where many of the workers work six days a week) by our standards do not make all that much money. They are smart and just trying to climb the socioeconomic ladder like people across the world.

If we as a country start out taxing our companies and borrowing .46 cents for every dollar we spend IMO you can tell your grand kids how it used to be....Luckily I am old and maybe I will not be around to watch this great nation decline into a country ruled by fascism or cronyism, while descending into a third rate (behind China and India) socialist banana republic.

Like I have thought before, maybe I am just an old cranky man who should just keep his keyboard quiet and go with the flow. Kinda hard to do sometimes for me so I apologize if my ranting offended anyone..If we want to pull out of this nose dive then make this the most attractive country to do business in...Start with taxes/incentives on companies wanting to do business here; our work force is easily trained and can do just about anything if motivated but please don't get me started on public education or I will get really pissed off.....

If I had a small country I would make it very attractive for overseas businesses to come and set up shop. I would suck the life out of the high tax and spend governments of the world. My country I would call it Utopia; all would be well in my Utopia..... but alas some mighty power would want to destroy Utopia instead of follow the example.?


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posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 10:42 AM
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Depressing isn't it. I see nothing good about the information you supplied but have to agree it is fairly close to the truth.
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posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 10:46 AM
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6. Music. This is one of the saddest parts of the change story. The music industry is dying a slow death. Not just because of illegal downloading. It's the lack of innovative new music being given a chance to get to the people who would like to hear it. Greed and corruption is part of the problem. The record labels and the radio conglomerates are simply self-destructing. Over 40% of the music purchased today is "catalog items," meaning traditional music that the public is familiar with. Older established artists. This is also true on the live concert circuit. To explore this fascinating and disturbing topic further, check out the book, "Appetite for Self-Destruction" by Steve Knopper, and the video documentary, "Before the Music Dies."


Nah the music industry is alive and well innovative music is very alive and well and always evolving . I think you are missing the underground aspect . Record companies target children the same old prepackaged crap from the 90's and even 80's pop music . I haven't listened to fm radio in years ( am radio I like the talk shows as they are informative )

The city I live have no heavy metal radio stations but at the local record stores it is the heavy metal that people are buying up the most . oddly enough as the franchise store owner said to me the franchise seem to want to under stock what is popular from the kids and keep pushing the pop bands . To be honest being a teenager in the 90's I hated the majority of music being produced . Listening to led zeplin or pink floyd ( I do love alot of bands from that era , however they are out dated I have heard them a million times and it got boring a long time ago there is only a certain amount of times one can listen to shine on you crazy diamond .

what would kill the music is keep packaging Elvis or the beatles and this pre packaged crap that is the pop industry . Check out some "between the buried and me " you want to hear innovation and originality . but I am sure you will like many others dismiss it because you don't like his screaming and there is to much musically going on . thats fine but I say this music is alive and well my friend just because it maybe out of ones comfort zone doesn't mean that music died with Elvis
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posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 10:47 AM
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My prediction is we will have a year filled with anxieties over economy, wars and persistent attacks on freedoms and rights. The people will spend their days doing what they have always done, complain, work, sleep, party and complain some more. While leaders are making moves towards unifying our world and routing out the evils once and for all. We will see some disasters, some triumphs, we may even see a slight shift in spiritual ideals then we will celebrate the new years, remember the past years challenges and do it all over again but slightly different leading to more tenuous results further compounding the complexity of our societies.

Check back in 2014 to see if I am the true prophet by verifying my prediction on January 1st, 2014.



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by rickymouse
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Depressing isn't it. I see nothing good about the information you supplied but have to agree it is fairly close to the truth.
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You could write an equally close translation that deals more with the positives as well. Instead of the doom and gloom we always see.
Nothing ends, cycles repeat. The world is in a cycle and always will be in a cycle. No sense focusing on the negative all the time, if all the human race did was think negatively chances are we would wipe ourselves out.
We can either choose to be part of the negative ideals, or the positive ones.

I love life, so screw the negative crap. I especially want to spread the good ideals and try to make people realize things are not so cut, dried and impossible to change. It takes a bunch of good minds to change the world, not a bunch of negative minds who think we will die tomorrow because we are a failed race. That kind of thinking is why our world has so many bad events these days. Our children grow up with our paranoia and our lack of positive vibes and we breed them with the idea that you have no choices in the world, conform and die.

Time for that to change and the only way to start that change is by changing the minds and hearts of as many as you can. So I'll start with you and whomever else is listening here.

We are like relay stations, the bad vibes we all send each other reverberates around the world like a stone thrown in the pond sending a ripple effect as far as the eye can see.

What do you want your ripple effect to be? Prepare for the worst and hope for the best and never expect everyone is out to get you. Live with a smile and make it contagious.
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posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 10:55 AM
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2013 will be the same as year other year governments will over spend . natural disasters will happen. war will rage on . our freedoms will still be slowly taken away ..



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 10:56 AM
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5. The Land Line Telephone. Unless you have a large family and make a lot of local calls, you don't need it anymore. Most people keep it simply because they've always had it or its sole use is for a security system. But you are paying double charges for that extra service. All the cell phone companies will let you call customers using the same cell provider for no charge against your minutes. There are even companies that allow unlimited everything for less than $60 a month.


I love my landline.
I have said it before and will say it again....you will have to drag me kicking and screaming into the 21st century.
My company pays for my cell phone and if they didn't I wouldn't own one.

People having 24 hour access to me wherever I am is disturbing to me.
There are maybe 5 or 6 people who have my landline number and i like it like that.

If I am not home....wait until I get home and no....I don't have an answering machine or call display.

I will keep it as long as possible.



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by rickymouse
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Depressing isn't it. I see nothing good about the information you supplied but have to agree it is fairly close to the truth.
edit on 31-12-2012 by rickymouse because: (no reason given)


Hahahaha and I am a positive kind of guy! My friends think so anyway.... The first thing about solving a problem is to identify the problem exist in the first place. Break the problem down and the ramifications of decisions made to cause the problem; "in the beginning" to coin a biblical phrase......

We used to have to run 5 miles every morning. It was horrible with combat boots and the heat....then go work for the rest of the day. We did get to shower so most were not to smelly..... The units productivity started to suffer and stupid mistakes were being made.

I remember running and feeling like total crap but found out the secret to surviving. My thoughts were, "Why do I feel like quitting when I have not even gone a mile yet"? OK, my side hurts a little, my left hip feels sore a little, my boot is hurting, a little, it is really hot, no S@#$ etc etc,...when I analyzed each individual pain none were show stoppers. If I took them all together without analyzing each one their combined pain index was almost unbearable. If that makes sense to anyone thank you......Most problems need to be broken down to their beginning/inception and the elements that transpired before the problem was recognized usually give the answers to the fix IMO.

Enough about my predictions I would prefer to hear yours.



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 11:34 AM
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According to the latest message from Bashar (channeled by Darryl Anka) "Crossing the Threshold and Tipping the Scales" there will be a "somewhat clear sighting of a ship within 2013" that will help accelerate his prediction that "the existence of ET life will be mainstream knowledge within 2017".

Since Bashar is the only channel I know of that did not walk into the 21st of December 2012 trap, and since he seldom gives definitive predictions within a limited time frame I will look forward to see what happens on this. I do not think he would mention it if he was talking about the usual halfbaked youtube video. It has to be something a bit more spectacular than that.

He did predict the Phoenix Light UFO incident, and he also predicted Fukushima. Other than that I think the collapse of the established systems will accelerate in 2013.



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by rickymouse
We're getting a nice close asteroid that may play Billiards with the satellites. We are going to get at least one impressive comet. We will hopefully get more beautiful northern lights before the solar max. We will be having some big solar flares yet which won't do too much damage but may burn out people's computers.

Now the bad part. Stocks will fall, the economies will downturn again. The price of beef and all meats and dairy will increase with the droughts effects finally showing up. 2013 will have many storms that cause harm to our societies around the world. There will be restrictions on the net put in place worldwide in 2013 also, tptb will supply proof of it's misuse and cut it back. Many people will die of food poisoning this coming year also.

The worst thing is that coffee prices will double by the end of 2013


Gotta agree with ricky on this one, with an added addendum:

2013 is the year, I believe, that the "bond bubble" will burst, and we'll have a redux of 2008, only worse, because we're not in a position fiscally to do anything about it. Instead of a housing bubble bursting, this one has to do with funding governments. Our currency may crash as a result.

Hold on to your hats, folks, 2013 is going to be interesting, but not in a good way. Pockets of positivity will exist, of course, to buoy our spirits, but it is my feeling that this is the year the chickens come home to roost.



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 03:01 PM
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Originally posted by CALGARIAN
I agree with everything you said, it's coming. Yet, maybe before 2022, not 2013 bud.


I agree with you; just trends which are transpiring and point to a very interesting future (over time) if these trends continue.2022 or 2040? Heck I dunno?.



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 09:53 PM
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I don't want to call the following a prediction, but we will get to see if the "188" days of spacing between enormous earthquake verifies, with one happening somewhere along a coastline of the Pacific... Maybe the Vancouver one, if you ask for a precision...



posted on Jan, 1 2013 @ 01:09 AM
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My predictions... Probably lame, but of what will not happen. (I have little luck predicting what will happen.)

Cubs will not win the world series.

Scientists will not figure out this gravity thing, such that we can have hover cars or go into space for real.

And despite all the popularity of doom-porn in many forums, the world will not asplode.


(It would be fun if I'm wrong with any or all of the above, but I'm not seeing it.)

But it's not all good. I also don't see the economy getting any better either. So I personally will be stuck doing the same kind of crappy low paying "part-time" job I've been doing for the last year. (Although who knows, maybe the gas prices will cut into their budget and they'll let me go... And then what?)



posted on Jan, 1 2013 @ 04:52 AM
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So far in 2013 i've been attacked in my car and kicked someone in the face.

Drunk people are stupid.

Said person is going to wake up in pain, and that sucks because I honestly didn't want to hurt anyone...
I gave him water and an icepack after I kicked his ass and DROVE HIM HOME. I'M TOO NICE DAMMIT.

Also at McDonalds, ugh...my friend wanted to go so... lol...some guy drops 40$ without noticing so I pick it up, give it to him and the crowd saw it and like congratulated me for doing the right thing, that felt great lol..
they were like "you could have easily taken it!" to which I replied, we are all Canadian. they all had smiles.

so 2013, already taken to extremes. Kicking ass and doing the right thing lol..



posted on Jan, 1 2013 @ 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by yourmaker
So far in 2013 i've been attacked in my car and kicked someone in the face.

Drunk people are stupid.

Said person is going to wake up in pain, and that sucks because I honestly didn't want to hurt anyone...
I gave him water and an icepack after I kicked his ass and DROVE HIM HOME. I'M TOO NICE DAMMIT.

Also at McDonalds, ugh...my friend wanted to go so... lol...some guy drops 40$ without noticing so I pick it up, give it to him and the crowd saw it and like congratulated me for doing the right thing, that felt great lol..
they were like "you could have easily taken it!" to which I replied, we are all Canadian. they all had smiles.

so 2013, already taken to extremes. Kicking ass and doing the right thing lol..


That is actually a good story: if more people stood up for what is right and fought against what is wrong the world would be a better place, no?





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