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Originally posted by mbkennel
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
NOT because we won the cold war but because we were the worst winners I could have imagined. We turned their national disgrace into a national humiliation and Putin WAS KGB then. He was among those made a total fool of. Perhaps, as he sees it, more than most, given his position and agency.
We sell him short at our peril and if it comes to it, he'll never attack us in our strengths...however it may appear in advance.
I think it's reasonable to blame Putin for Putinism, not the USA.
What exactly is the "worst winner somebody could have imagined?" I can think of much, much worse winners. In eras past, the winner would demand payment of tribute---let's say a million barrels per day of free oil---and slaves, and de-arm the loser, and appoint a proconsul to control the local government.
The USA advocated democracy and free markets. Some hustlers, Western and Russian tried to make a ruble or billion. Note: everybody who got really rich sleazily after the Cold War was Russian.
The consequences of Bolshevism, VI Lenin, Joe Stalin, Brezhnev, and Yeltsin's liver humiliated Russia.edit on 8-1-2013 by mbkennel because: (no reason given)