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Originally posted by markosity1973
reply to post by colbe
Hi Colbe, very interesting thread
This is the area of Marian apparition that I have been studying in particular - the parallels between what Mary has been saying and what is being revealed through other channels.
In this case, the message that is being passed on by the visionary closely resembles Nibiru theories. The more I study the end time messages being passed on by prophets in the catholic church in particular, the more I realise that they speak of warning signs about pole shift and in this case Nibiru type events.
Originally posted by nancyliedersdeaddog
Originally posted by colbe
reply to post by nancyliedersdeaddog
nancyl,
You show an interest for not believing. God bless you. People would rather accept God is going to go on, look the other way, for the grave sins of San Francisco and New York, New York is the center for the MOST abortions in our country. God is perfectly just besides being perfectly loving. Is this prophecy or humor, I've never read it.
.. "Inless there is a base on another planet far away...
So god cares more about abortions and gay people then the mass killings going on in Africa or places like Burma? I was saying that the only way anyone will survive if there is 2 suns is on another planet far away due to the disruption of planetary orbits, heat, and other factors. I would like to know when this will happen and how come your other predictions haven't came to pass? I don't believe in a god that will kill mass amounts of innocent people just because they don't agree with him which sounds kind of like a dictator. I just wish people would have abortions instead of having 8 kids when they can't even support themselves.
Originally posted by markosity1973
reply to post by colbe
Out of interest, have you read about Padre Pio's letter re the three days of darkness?
Total pole shift theory - presumably one side of the earth will go dark for three days while the other will burn in the heat from the sun ( a terrible heat coming was talked about in the 'night of screams' at Garabandal) The big pointer to pole shift is at the end when he says at the end that winter will become spring..
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Originally posted by colbe
Is this the prophesied 3 Days of Darkness in reference to the Chastisement?
God's Chastisement is by fire this time.
I am confused about two terms, is the "pole shift" the same as "the earth falling of it's axis?"
colbe
Originally posted by colbe
Public Message Our Lady of Emmitsburg to the World
though Gianna Talone Sullivan (Emmitsburg, Maryland)
On September 8, 2000, officials from the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Baltimore met with Talone and issued a statement that they found no basis to support her messages as having an extraordinary source. The statement from the archdiocese condemns the alleged apparitions as not of a supernatural origin. The officials directed that the prayer service with the messages at St. Joseph's Church in Emmitsburg, Maryland be discontinued.
The Holy See has let the matter rest at the local level of the archdiocese in Baltimore, Maryland and has not commented on her messages. On October 8, 2008, Most Rev. Edwin O'Brien, Archbishop of Baltimore, issued a statement condemning the messages and revelations as not authentic and has cautioned Talone from continuing the distribution of the messages as gravely harmful to the spiritual life of the faithful. [4]
On Oct 10, 2008, the Archbishop of Baltimore issued a letter that was inserted in the church bulletin of every Catholic Church in Maryland. The letter from Archbishop O’Brien warns Gianna Sullivan not to disseminate in any way, by her own person or by any other person, by electronic means or any other means, on any church property or in any public or private place any messages. He then warns others not to disseminate her messages because it is harmful to the church and he hopes that this will stop the confusion of the faithful.
Originally posted by markosity1973
Originally posted by colbe
Is this the prophesied 3 Days of Darkness in reference to the Chastisement?
God's Chastisement is by fire this time.
I am confused about two terms, is the "pole shift" the same as "the earth falling of it's axis?"
colbe
The Chastisement you speak of contains a warning (3 days of darkness) and then the actual chastisement - fire in the sky. These could actually both be parts of a pole shift happening, especially if a planet like Nibiru came through the solar system - if it were big enough it is not impossible that it would cause a 3 day solar eclipse and the disturbance to the earth's gravitational field it brings causes a pole shift.
If you read between the lines of what Padre Pio has spoken then you will understand that this is a natural disaster of global proportions and that survival will be based on luck of location and following the instructions rather than spiritual piety.
The fire in the sky could be one of a couple of scenarios - a huge meteor shower coming in to destroy the planet, or methane in the upper atmosphere igniting. If you read about the amount of methane that is starting to leak from the now thawing permafrost in Siberia as well as out of the Atlantic ocean into the atmosphere, this is not as impossible as it sounds.
As for pole shift, the main theory of it (one that was supported by Mr Einstein himself) is the earth's crust becoming separated from the earth's molten core inside and slipping around in relation to the core, which will stay put. The north and south pole's physical axis would remain in the same place if you were observing from say the moon, but the planet would look all topsy turvy compared to what it is today i.e from what I have seen of predicted maps, countries like New Zealand would be at the equator instead of way down near what is now the south pole, but the earth would still rotate an a very similar axis as it does today.
This is where the scenario spoken of by Padre Pio makes total sense - poisonous gasses in the air as the crust rips apart and moves, huge earthquakes, people acting all crazy out of fear and also because the sudden change in magnetic fields will disrupt our brain function no doubt.edit on 2-1-2013 by markosity1973 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by colbe
Our Lord calls it a "comet" in John Leary's messages,
Originally posted by colbe
Prophesied events are getting closer, look to the Heavens...
~ ~ ~
Public Message Our Lady of Emmitsburg to the World
though Gianna Talone Sullivan (Emmitsburg, Maryland)
June 1, 2008
...Children, for the last 20 years I have oftentimes spoken of "change." I have told you that there is no time for fear; there is only time for change. You must know by now that I have recently spoken of an arising of "two suns." When you see the two suns on the horizon, you must know that this is a time of change, a time of this new beginning about which I have spoken to you before. After you see the two suns, there is only a short time before you will see a tremendous change in weather. After this, as you know, there are more changes to come.
Children, God did not create only the Earth. God is the Creator of the cosmos, with its many galaxies, many orbits, different stars and different planets. God is the Creator! There are other planets like earth, far beyond your understanding.
I can tell you this: Even your governments and the Church authorities already have knowledge of the stars aligning and its implications upon you. You must not fear but must be prepared, primarily spiritually.
"After awhile, you will see a time when there is another body in orbit around your solar system, coming between Earth and the Sun and leading to tremendous devastation. Approximately 60-70% of the world's population, as you know it, will cease. Of those who survive, 60% of them could die of disease and starvation."
So is this 60-70% above and beyond the 2/3 of the world that dies under the book of revelations that was given to John the beloved of Christ? If so then why didn't God just tell John hey it looks like around about only 1/10 of the world is going to make it through the end times.
Originally posted by misscurious
So.. where is this second sun?
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by colbe
Our Lord calls it a "comet" in John Leary's messages,
Another false 'prophet' .. false just like Emmitsburg ...
Official Church Statement on John Leary
June 25, Bishop Matthew H. Clark stated that the 'prophecies' of John Leary were not of supernatural origin and that they contained many theological errors.
Originally posted by colbe
...There will be two celestials, first at the time of the Great Warning and second at the judgment by fire, at the
end of Tribulation before the new time, the Millennium, the 7th Day of God. In John Leary's messages Our Lord
refers to the two celestial as a "COMET." I'll look for the older message that says this...
Our Lord sums it up,speaking of the two celestials, in a recent message to John Leary, an excerpt, a short paragraph in the message:
~ ~ ~
Sunday, November 18, 2012:
Jesus said: “My people, as you come closer to the end times, you will see a happening in the sky on the day of the Warning that will frighten many people. Everyone will have their life review at the same time. Then you will see where you will be judged. You will have a small taste of your judgment’s destination before you will be brought back into your body. After you come back, you will have a strong feeling to repent of your sins, or a need to come to Confession for Catholics. This will begin the events that will lead up to the Antichrist’s coming into power. At the end of the tribulation, you will see Me on the clouds coming to judge the people. My Comet of Chastisement will cause the three days of darkness. The evil ones will be cast into hell, and I will renew the earth. Then I will bring My faithful down into My Era of Peace, and later into heaven. Be on the watch for My coming, so your soul is ready to meet Me at its judgment.”
www.johnleary.com...
Originally posted by colbe
Wrongo sister.
Interesting too, hmmm, you left off the year.
Don't be a naysayer. .
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by colbe
Wrongo sister.
No. I am correct. I posted exactly what the church said.
Interesting too, hmmm, you left off the year.
Oh for crying out loud .. it was 1999 ... geeeze ...
Don't be a naysayer. .
I am stating exactly what the church has said ... both Emmitsburg and John Leary are FALSE VISIONARIES. The church has said that neither of them are supernatural in origin and the church has said that John Leary's 'prophecies' are wrong theologically.
They are both false. That's the truth of the matter. Deal with it.
Originally posted by markosity1973
Hi Colbe,
While some of the sources you provide are less than trustworthy, yes they are all talking about the same idea of a comet or another planet causing a 3 day eclipse and then the chastisement which sounds rather like a pole shift.
You are talking to a believer here, I have personally been spoken to by Mary herself many years ago during a daily apparition of Medjugorje seer Ivan Dargicevic. It was the sort of thing that changes your life and sticks with you forever it was that profound.
So, based on the above, I would suggest that if you want to know more about why Mary is here and what God's plan for humanity is, that you investigate these more well known events. Not all of them are approved by the church, Garabandal in particular is somewhat perplexing but they all have well documented evidence and lots of prophesy about end times.
Lourdes
Fatima
Garabandal
Zeitoun
Medjugorje
Rwanda