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I cannot believe I am trying to find words to explain to a person, whom I assume to be an adult, that two wrongs don't make a right. That it takes two to tango. That you are responsible for your own actions, and it's the height of deflection and irresponsibility to portray it as Well some guy on the Internet said stuff and he made me have to say stuff back... it's his fault....
Originally posted by poet1b
I see ATS going that way. I see too many trolls racking up points who contribute nothing but personal attacks.
No. You can't. But.. And at the same time, No. It shouldn't be, necessarily - Your 'mood spoiled', that is. ??
Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by 12m8keall2c
but you can't unread something. Your mood is already spoiled.
Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by forgetmenot
If you have to hop over to utube for a song, then it effected you. It is nice to think, that in a Buddhist kind of way, you can just tune it out, but no.
edit on 1-1-2013 by poet1b because: expand a point
We raised our kids along these same lines ...
That...
You will never be able to 'control' the actions or efforts of others
But, and at the same time ...
But this morning, while I was in the shower - where I do most of my quality thinking, it occurred to me. These people are sssooo freaking fake in their supposed sincerity. I mean it hit me like a ton of bricks. Sure, they crusade here - and it looks honorable and noble to some other folks. But think about it. Are any of these people popping-up and saying "Great, I went to work today and tried to tell everyone there about my thoughts on this issue. The boss told me company policy forbade such discussion... But, damn it, freedom of speech matters so much to me that I INSISTED he shut up and let me speak. I got fired for my beliefs! I feel THAT strongly about the subject!"
Hell no they haven't. And they won't. Why not? Because they've got common sense! That's right. Sense enough not to tamper with their own lives. So why do it here? Why front like a crusader when the truth is that you won't even bloody your blade? Why engage in empty rhetoric here when it's not important enough to really stand up for?
Of course the answer is obvious. They do it here because there is nothing to lose here. Getting banned isn't really a threat. So it's the perfect place to act like a crusader and to play games with whatever following you can attract. If they get banned along with you? Bonus lulz.
Fake crusaders don't really want the Feds knocking on their front doors to take a formal statement about what they say they believe. They don't want to be on record saying the crazy stuff they DEMAND the "right" to say here.
You ever see a thread titled "Cartoons Are Disclosure!!!" and then a statement that the OP believes strongly enough in that fact that he/she is going to test it by dropping an anvil on their head? Running off of a cliff to see if they really do hover there for 2 seconds? Smoke dynamite to see if they'll survive the explosion blackened, and moving their nose back in place - from the back of their head? Ya ever see a thread from somebody wanting to know where the real world Acme products mail order company can be found at?
But this morning, while I was in the shower - where I do most of my quality thinking,
For them I say: If you see a member in meltdown and sympathize or empathize with them. Ask yourself? Do they really have a valid point that they are genuinely moved by? Or are they just empty crusaders looking for an environment where they can stir the pot and get their jollies at the expense of others.
Of course the answer is obvious. They do it here because there is nothing to lose here.
Originally posted by Hefficide
reply to post by OmniPotential
Brand new account, complaining so emotionally. I'm guessing you've been here before.
Either way... I spent my entire career in management and have spent most of my life enforcing the rules in the real world - and here I am, alive and well. Your post is a prime example of what I mean. In the real world you'd likely accept the rules of whatever environment you are in, and abide by them by default, without the hyperbole or idiocy. Unless you are posting from a prison day room, then you'd have to accept this as fact.
~Heff