People bring this stuff onto themselves.

I must have missed quite a lot of the worst of perspectives on the recent sensitive subject, because evil isn't exactly the first word that I would use to describe the things I chose to read. I'll count myself lucky. Mostly I saw the usual conspiring, punctuated with confusion as to why expressing doubts kept being condemned.

I had my own doubts for a while, and said so. Now I'm just eager for things to go back to the way they were before, because seeing this topic's wheels being spun for so long is wearying me. One thing is for sure though... emphasizing evil as a noun with the zeal of a medieval priest won't accomplish it.

ATS is not perfect but it is much better than other sites

A site known as GLP is the worst of its kind, if you want to get pinned and gain positive karma, just bash Muslims, Black people or Mexicans, you can be as abusive/rude/racial/hateful/even call for a genocide as you want and you walk away

yet you will get instantly banned if you defend black people or say something a mod disagrees with

they even Ban you if you mention ATS there

I am sorry that you have become frustrated so quickly BAW33. It happens to us all at some time or another, just not quite as rapidly as it has affected you. Might I suggest stepping back for a short period of time? I have done this myself and it can be very helpful to take a time out, to come back later with a fresh pair of eyes.

I agree that sometimes good threads get trashed for seemingly no reason while others are allowed to continue that leave me scratching my head. I have come to the conclusion that the mods here are in a sense kind of like a small town police force. There aren't enough of them to be at all places all of the time so a lot of things get missed. Some members of the force are a little more lenient than others, while some are "gung ho". Some interpret the T&Cs a little differently than others. All in all they just try to do the best they can in an ever growing population- which is not an easy task.

Most, if not all, of us have been slapped on the wrist at one time or another, even when we are "sure" that we had not violated the T&Cs. I think that it is because we all interpret them in our own way, and our interpretations do not necessarily jibe with the interpretations of others. The same can be said of laws in our real lives outside of the internet.In such cases we just pay our fine, learn not to do whatever it was that garnered attention from the authorities and move forward. We cannot spend our time worrying after what others may say or do but focus on what we do ourselves. To dwell on such things can be maddening.

Blah, blah, blah.

We all get spanked, censored, spanked, zinged, disappointed, spanked.

Whining about it is pointless.

Carry on.

Originally posted by BrokenAngelWings33

I am forced to remind myself that the reason the behavior exist in here is because it exist out there. This is a microcosm of a macrocosm of society. Evil is evil. Evil Lives and it is VILE. There is a different level of intelligence of all members, different ages, different countries of origin, one thing is a common denominator in all...we exist on the same planet and have the same EVIL to deal with.

Evil sometimes fools you. Judging others as evil, just because they say something you don't like, or say it in a way that you don't like is a form of evil too. You are fooling yourself.

Originally posted by BrokenAngelWings33
I would ask all of you to look in your heart and find the love you need to change this world we live in. Turn that evil into something constructive rather than destructive.

I would ask you to look within yourself. Constant criticism and whining about how you are picked on for it does not bode well for the apparent enlightment that you claim, and then further you take this facade of enlightment and attempt to use it to tell others how they "should" do things. The irony is, that the whole while you fail to see your own negative, destructive tendancies.

Originally posted by BrokenAngelWings33
The trick is being consistent in regulating, and that just hasn't been the case. I have seen way to much that is unacceptable behavior that goes left unchecked.

The thing is that you want the world to conform to how you think it should be, and that other people should be repressed and monitored who do not conform to your vision/opinion. But not you, because you are better. You complain about whining, disrespect from other members, and inconsistancy toward you with the moderators. You constantly criticize pretty much everyone but yourself, and then whine when you get called on it. Your hypocracy is inflammatory. It makes people angry, and if I were to hazard a guess, that is part of why your threads get dumped.

Prime example...

Originally posted by BrokenAngelWings33
I have been penalized for comments that were very tame in comparison to what I was responding to. I do my very best to follow T&C and to alert those that don't, yet the alerts often go ignored when the obvious is clear. If I dare question any of it I run the risk of alienating a moderator or 2, it just isn't worth the hassle

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Nice. The thing is, that this is indicative of your content on ATS. All you are here to do is shake your finger at other people, and bolster your own false sense of superiority. Your message has nothing to do with love and light, and everything to do with your ego.

All that you do is complain about how nobody conforms to the T&C regulations but you, how you have a right to castigate everyone who doesn't communicate the way you think that they should because you aren't as "mean", and because you are not targeting individuals. As if that somehow makes it ok. But guess what? You are still accusing, insulting, and inflammatory.

Originally posted by BrokenAngelWings33
The simple fact is, this world needs to change and it is going to take a monumental catastrophe for that to happen. Which is unfortunate, because I don't feel that should be necessary for people to learn to love each other and accept that we are all part of the same energy. It does not matter what weapon is used to kill...people kill people because they are evil. Who cares about gun control or why the killing happens...the fact it happens is bad enough. That is what ticks me off about most. They don't get it.

I think that your are the one that doesn't "get it." I also think that there is no teaching you. The self-rightous cannot maintain their rightousness if they recognize that they are what they hate. Feeling superior is too much fun for you.

You are not a gold standard for behavior. You clothe yourself in false pretense. It's like the Emperors New Clothes. Your true nature is exposed and you do not even see it. You choose not to see it.

What an interesting thread.

I've been on ATS for 6 years. Been a moderator and super moderator for four of them. Before that I was on AOL running chat rooms there.

The single biggest thing that causes problems in online forums is people believing their own hype. No one likes to believe they are wrong - ever.

Me, I griped at the staff here when I was just a member because they pulled a thread of mine off the board and trashed it. So I talked to the Mod who did it and got a reality check after I thought about what they said for a while ~ my thread was seen as mocking and a direct personal attack on someone. I really couldn't complain.

Ego is a terrible and fragile thing. There have been long standing members on ATS who have been banned because when they did the silliest, most trivial T&C infraction and were pulled on it they melted down completely, became abusive and threatening to staff (yes, we've had death threats) because they believed they were untouchable and "too popular on the forum" to be admonished.

Lets face it people do, and type, stupid and silly things. Sometimes you get carried away and sometimes you might feel that what you've written is the most important thing in the world. Others aren't going to see it that way.

When that happens, you have to develop a slightly thicker skin. No ones life depends on what is written here (despite what some people might think) and in the end ATS is a discussion forum, not life and death.

Finally - we aren't "the mods", we are "fellow members", we just volunteered to try and keep things on the level and make the community a better place. We aren't paid, we just do what we can. The level of abuse we get sometimes far outweighs the desire to log in, but we do it because we actually love the forum and the fact that you can have a conversation here, and that its NOT the comments section of YouTube.

Anyone unhappy with how we roll really should go spend some time reading YouTube comments. You'll be back soon enough...

(In the same manner as those who have been banned, threatened the staff and site, made up crap about the site and spread vicious personal lies about people on here usually try to do..)