posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 06:48 PM
Originally posted by loveshot1831
The powers of the world have grown to a point that it would take a total breakdown of every thing we deem civalized to change it.
People won't rise up for fear of losing what that have.
Fear is used as a form of control.
Its if you fear this happening then don't worry you don't have to defend yourself. We will create a law that will do it for you. And bam! There goes
another little piece of our freedom.
We can all talk about what needs to be done but are we willing to lose everything in the attempt?
Remember what happened when rome fell?
The dark ages. All these lovely gadgets and new knowledge would either be lost or forgotten.
I'm not saying people shouldn't stand up. I'm saying most wouldn't be willing
Everyone would line up to protect their cars and homes but not to stand up for principles.
So it comes down to all or nothing.
Sorry to say but a few would stand bit we would stand alone.
You make some pertinent points.
To put us back on a sustainable path as a civilisation It would take a tear down not only of many government services but also of most, if not all
transnational corporations and the financial systems.
As for the corporations - these would have a very big impact on the average citizen since they are in control of many of the formerly public utilities
around the globe. Water distribution and waste water services, gas and electricity, garbage disposal and recycling... You can't live without water
and in a modern developed country people WON'T live without sewage, gas and electricity. Along with the assurance of law enforcement and food supply
chain security, nationalisation of these essential utilities is a necessary prelude to righteously seizing power from the corporatists and big,
intrusive .gov and putting them in their rightful place as the servants of their "constituents" and "customers", not masters of them.
Damn, I'm starting to sound like some commie Che Guevarra-wannabe. While I disagree with their ideology of control and oppression of freedom of
voice, action and thought, the Pinkos came up with some workable strategies of revolution. Another one they came up with is the idea of a shadow
infrastructure which exists to provide similar services to the population as those of the bad men in power. Of course, their idea was in support of
their desired end state of a screwed up social system where nobody had any possessions or prospects aside from party officials, but elements of the
"shadow government" idea would allow people to "opt out" en masse from the more farcical and oppressive government or corporate-provided services.
One example of the above would be food production and distribution - on a local level, many suburban-dwellers in particular could turn their front or
back lawns into permaculture gardens. Parks and waste ground could be co-opted for the same purpose. The resulting produce could be distributed to the
locals at nominal cost, thus exposing the ridiculously high supermarket pricing structures. People volunteer to work on the farms and go home with
valuable skills in horticulture and permaculture which allows them to start a garden and urban farmer's market in their own area. The WWOOFer system
is already in place to allow manpower and wide dissemination of the concepts above.
Another example would be recyclable waste disposal. Currently this is undertaken by double-dipping corporations - they are paid by local or state
governments to collect the recyclables, then are paid again when they deposit it at the sorting and recycling centre. A lot of local cottage
manufacturing industries could be developed if the recyclable materials were re-routed from the international pulp, aluminium, plastic and glass
markets. Plastic can make liquid hydrocarbon fuels such as gasoline and biodiesel can be processed out of waste vegetable oils - local production of
these two fuels would stimulate any local economy and keep people employed while providing cheap fuel for locals. It might be bad economics, but it's
good for a community when it's not done with profit as the ultimate aim.