Ummm.. Really? Rape as a reward and motivational tool for the fighters???? We're really hearing this in the 21st Century anywhere in the world? ...and will the world do anything but grunt and move on? I feel like we've gone back in time sometimes ...and it would take a pretty long trip back I think to find an era where global awareness could come on something so absolutely vile...and not bring immediate and loud condemnation from at least a good number of directions.

I'll bet we barely see TPTB take passing notice and this will surely be something Carney just kinda avoids in any press conferences.

what a load of BS

fatwas to rape????????????????????????????????????????????

your wrong at every concievable level.....

stoopid

I'm not hearing anything about this besides on ATS, probably because the Saudis are our beloved allies.

Especially with all the media coverage about the Rape in New Delhi, this is disgraceful.

We should be condemning ASAP with as much seriousness we can muster.

I seriously don't understand why it wasn't Riyadh... instead of Bagdad..

rape is a recurring theme in the teachings and practice of many Muslims throughout the centuries, and still to this day- anyone deemed lesser, be it muslims who don't follow Islam correctly, Christians, atheists etc is nothing but cattle

When will the ATS community wake up and stop spouting the party line that Islam is a 'religion of peace'..?

Thanks OP for highlighting some of the Truth.

Islam is brutal, backwards, sadistic, perverse (etc). The evidence is stacked up around the globe, plain as day, well-documented in this internet age - and even if you don't believe in the spiritual principles I hint at shortly, you can see with your own eyes that 'peace' is NOT what Islam was designed for, or what it has become.

Islamic 'holy texts' are full of spiritual deception/ 'heresies', designed to subvert the world's opinions of Judeo-Christian tradition & theology, and to subjugate/ eliminate followers of the Judeo-Christian way (and those of all other faith). Islam is carefully crafted to veil its hatred of YHWH, Yeshua & the Judaic prophets, via a modicum of pretense at 'respect' for Judeo-Christian believers..

Quranic (& other related) texts detail slightly less harsh penalties for Judeo-Christian believers who have been conquered by Islamic raiders, when compared to - for example - Hindu & Buddhist believers, who are to be mercilessly exterminated. To eliminate free thought & creative expression in all non-Islamic faith groups/ philosophical traditions, to ensure a male-dominated tribal system (where women and girls are literally playthings to be abused at will) - these are also foremost amongst the sick & twisted goals to be achieved by 'true' Muslims.

By offering a pretense at 'respect' for Judeo-Christian tradition, the world is duped into thinking that the Islamic faith is a genuine component of Abrahamic theology, when in fact it can be conclusively proven that this is not the case. Sadly, even modern scholars have allowed themselves to be conned into believing that there is a genuine place for Islam alongside Judeo-Christian theology, philosophy, tradition & moral values - despite the facts of the matter: The Quran contradicts even the most basic of the Judaic moral/ theological principles, and works very hard, very cleverly, to pour cold water on the legacy of Christ & His closest followers.

The leaders of Islamic thought have been promoting monstrous, diabolical 'fatwas', based upon tenuous expositions/ re-imaginings of Mohammedan proclivities, for century after century. This is relevant to our understanding of what Islam (in its essence) is, because Mohammed was a paedophile & an abuser of women - a man who encouraged other men to abuse women, to have sexual intercourse with girls at least as young as nine years old. Mohammed was a deceptive, dishonorable warlord, and trained his followers to be the same. He brutally crushed all opposition, frowning upon those that showed mercy.

He was most certainly NOT the sort of person whom the Almighty would choose as a prophet, considering that the 'final prophet' of Abrahamic tradition, in the person of Jesus, had arrived on the scene six hundred years earlier, announcing that:

3 “God blesses those who are poor and realize their need for him,
for the Kingdom of Heaven is theirs.
4 God blesses those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
5 God blesses those who are humble,
for they will inherit the whole earth.
6 God blesses those who hunger and thirst for justice,
for they will be satisfied.
7 God blesses those who are merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
8 God blesses those whose hearts are pure,
for they will see God.
9 God blesses those who work for peace,
for they will be called the children of God.
10 God blesses those who are persecuted for doing right,
for the Kingdom of Heaven is theirs.

Christ also stated plainly that anyone who harmed a child should consider himself in for deep trouble with the ruling authorities of the Universe. He stated clearly that such an abuser would be better off to tie a millstone around his neck and be thrown to the depths of the ocean, than to suffer the punishment he would receive following crimes against children.

So why would an abuser of children be selected to carry on prophetic work in the 'Abrahamic tradition'..?? Why, when such prophetic work was finished by Christ, does Islam contradict His words & legacy so completely..??

Makes sense ONLY if an enemy of Christ was the hidden hand behind the formation of Islam...



NB - Slight addition to rant -

Muslims are only moderate (and therefore, decent human beings) if they deny several of the central tenets and instructions of their 'prophet', and those of the Caliphs & other Islamic leaders in the centuries since Mohammed shuffled off this mortal coil.

'Islamic Extremists' should more accurately be labelled as 'Islamic Fundamentalists' - that is, they should be understood by the people of all nations as those Muslims who apply the full instructions/ guidance of Mohammed and the Caliphs, and are therefore 'truly Islamic' - showing the true colours of the false religion known to this world as Islam.

Lets have three cheers for religion, ahhh the justification of immoral acts,
religions number one use worldwide, to justify immoral oppressive acts and
somehow give those choosing to partake a sense of morality, the irony here
is the christian right would do similar things and has in the past if only
given the chance, islam is no more a religion of peace than christianity is.

you know whats funny, i have yet to see one single solitary case of someone
like hitchens getting on TV somewhere and saying, atheists may rape
14 years and older girls to sate their sexual desires, they must be allowed
to indulge their sexual desires i mean come on.........

And whats really sick to me is that any religious person compares atheism to
these religious nut jobs, perverted sick individuals they are, we are no more
like them then they are peaceful...... just a friendly reminder that not all religions
can be right, but it is possible for them all to be wrong.

Since Mr Scorpion has decided to show us certain 'gems' of certain religions(that he assumes we are trying to uphold) ,let me show some 'gems' of Islam (which he probably seems to uphold).

Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah." The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is thus disingenuous (the actual Muslim words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The actual Arabic comes from "fitna" which can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. Taken as a whole, the context makes clear that violence is being authorized until "religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle, as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. Here is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-" This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse).

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.