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posted on Dec, 30 2012 @ 10:05 AM
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Originally posted by Propogandor

Originally posted by Beavers
The topic is a LIE.

No where in the link does it say this.


And it only took five pages for someone to read it, typical ATS.


And it only took two posts to find a better source:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Russian source even.




posted on Dec, 30 2012 @ 10:12 AM
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reply to post by SplitInfinity
 


So tell me...list one thing I have stated that is not a fact.

From page 4:


More people die in a Month in the U.S. slipping in the Bathroom than have died in over a Decade of War in the Middle East.

Reeealy?



posted on Dec, 30 2012 @ 10:20 AM
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In fact, Russia is literally in the best position in the world right now for raw numbers indicating economic health and future stability. They are at the top...and we're 2nd from dead last. Yeah.... They aren't the ones with a HUGE problem. I just wish our problems weren't 100% our own making. We've killed ourselves...and now we're looking at other nations and calling them weak? Ugh....

Dead on Wrabbit. We're only fooling ourselves as we tank and ramp up war on their door step. The US is the one threatening war, not the Russians. They're busy building reserves and extending Olive branches while we pile up debt and spears.



posted on Dec, 30 2012 @ 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by ausername

Originally posted by Propogandor

Originally posted by Beavers
The topic is a LIE.

No where in the link does it say this.


And it only took five pages for someone to read it, typical ATS.


And it only took two posts to find a better source:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Russian source even.


So that's two complete lies then, cause the RT link an american presenter talking to a guy from New York, neither of which are 'Russia saying'

sheesh people, talk about clutching at straws!



posted on Dec, 30 2012 @ 10:28 AM
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Russians aren't the one starting anything...



posted on Dec, 30 2012 @ 10:59 AM
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LOL @Russia ever dreaming of taking on NATO, The Russian military is an ageing rust bucket i think NATO commanders are probably laughing at the thought of Russia saying such things


Russia would need China & Iran to ever challenge NATO



posted on Dec, 30 2012 @ 11:12 AM
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It's a cyber cold war this time around, if anything is there. Realize that if you talk about a world power on a website, their cyber crawlers will find it and they will probably get news of it, and then make internationally-influenced decisions based on it. Mostly decisions involving your person. Like: don't let this person in my country, or spy on this person a little harder, or if this person comes around here, give them a difficult time.

Then if the other guys are looking into it, your own country/nation will look into it. Say enough weird stuff on the Internet and don't be surprised if a zealous agent puts you on a naughty list, or a list where they neglect to assist you in legal matters. So, unless you are a skilled publicist, your political life runs the risk of hitting the toilet if you insult too many people online, or if someone's darling precious feelings get hurt. Your personal health is at risk if the military decides to do a covert clandestine operation against you. It may be very painful and there may be no way to get justice after they decide to be a jerk to you because of a blog post about a political type. I speak from experience; you do not want the Navy coming around with a Raytheon millimeter/femtometer ray gun, rattling your skull with electromagnetic waves to cause illness within your own home, through the walls, having it fail to operate correctly and burn the tissues in your jawbone, scarring your brain until you slowly become a vegetable. You won't find a sympathetic ear trying to explain that to the world either.

I have had daily-life interference with snooper types after forums, chat rooms, making websites, and not all of them are of my country, I believe, or are of the same political values I share. Cyber stalkers, in a gang formation. I mean renegade veterans and terrorists. Criminals. Black ops types.

Believe me when I type a paragraph about Israel, it makes it to Israel's eyes. Same with Russia or China. They keep lists just as thorough as the USA does, but their foreign national prejudice is going to be more intense. Plus your native country is going to go the extra mile and do a global investigation about you if your claims start interfering with their international lawsuit standards or especially their trusted politicians.

Back to the core of the thread, past the disclaimer, I think this time around, Cold War II is going to be half-thawed with cyber influence and international business relations. The second political ice age was already starting last year when Russians weren't showing up to meetings.



posted on Dec, 30 2012 @ 11:13 AM
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Originally posted by TritonTaranis
LOL @Russia ever dreaming of taking on NATO, The Russian military is an ageing rust bucket i think NATO commanders are probably laughing at the thought of Russia saying such things


Russia would need China & Iran to ever challenge NATO


And i think your underestimating the Russians, remember the Russian Georgian war back in 2008? when the Georgian forces attacked South Ossetia villages the Russians responded quite heavily and quickly in those areas where the Russians were fighting they completely overran some of the Georgian forces in the areas they were attacking.

Not surprising our beloved media were on the Georgian side.



posted on Dec, 30 2012 @ 11:37 AM
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Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter

Originally posted by TritonTaranis
LOL @Russia ever dreaming of taking on NATO, The Russian military is an ageing rust bucket i think NATO commanders are probably laughing at the thought of Russia saying such things


Russia would need China & Iran to ever challenge NATO


And i think your underestimating the Russians, remember the Russian Georgian war back in 2008? when the Georgian forces attacked South Ossetia villages the Russians responded quite heavily and quickly in those areas where the Russians were fighting they completely overran some of the Georgian forces in the areas they were attacking.

Not surprising our beloved media were on the Georgian side.


LOL

Georgia?

Please remember your talking about Georgia,

Quick to respond? there next door for god sakes lol

It really is laughable, Russia just don't have what it takes to even DREAM of attacking NATO, that's just a fact



posted on Dec, 30 2012 @ 11:46 AM
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Originally posted by TritonTaranis

It really is laughable, Russia just don't have what it takes to even DREAM of attacking NATO, that's just a fact


Not exactly, if cornered and provoked the Russians could take out NATO missile defenses, and claim that it was a direct threat to their national security, then dare NATO to make the next move.

It's not a laughing matter at all... The Russians are deadly serious about it.



posted on Dec, 30 2012 @ 11:49 AM
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Oh... joy. This is just what the world needs. Surely only good can come of this. It was so much fun the last time we did this. This is the ideal path to pursue to eliminate old rivalries and engender a spirit of global cooperation so that we can finally stop wasting time, resources, and lives and start improving the lives of everyone on our planet. Oh boy, I just can't wait.

...

Peace.



posted on Dec, 30 2012 @ 12:18 PM
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Beyond Cold War soon TM:

China and Russia on the one side
USA and Japan on the other
China, Russia, North Korea on the one side
South Korea, USA and Japan on the other side
Iran, China, Russia, North Korea on the one side
Israel, USA, Japan, South Korea on the other side

China, Russia, North Korea, Iran, whole Arab world on the one side
NATO, Japan, Israel, South Korea on the other side

And into WW3 we go.



posted on Dec, 30 2012 @ 12:27 PM
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You can see it now, they removed Marx, but cold war remained. Do you think that Marx was a reason for Cold War? He is burried in London, in NATO country.



posted on Dec, 30 2012 @ 12:29 PM
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reply to post by Alternative4u
 


but cold war means no real war though right ?

So isn't that kind of a good thing.



posted on Dec, 30 2012 @ 12:38 PM
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Originally posted by LucidDreamer85
reply to post by Alternative4u
 


but cold war means no real war though right ?

So isn't that kind of a good thing.


It means - potentially - no "real war" between NATO and Russia. The last Cold War (which some believe never ended) brought us plenty of conflict and death. Including but not limited to Vietnam and Korea. Also of note, among others, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, which indirectly led to the current war on terror because it prompted our arming and training of the Afghan Mujahadeen. The Cold War encompassed a lot more than an arms build up between the U.S. and U.S.S.R. Proxy wars broke out all over the world, and the echos of those conflicts still reverberate today.

Peace.
edit on 12/30/2012 by AceWombat04 because: Added information.



posted on Dec, 30 2012 @ 01:56 PM
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Oly just a few hours ago it was on TV News that Russia has Subs that are now so quite they are not heard or seen by NATO at all, they carry lots of Intercon missiles America would be wiped off the map if Russia only fired 20% of the missiles, being so fast America cannot knock them out, NATO admit that, people are daft to think Russian gear is rusty and not good, as American equipment is out dated by 15 years at this time in tec skills, who is it keeping the ISS going? no it's not USA is it? try to be honest with your self folks, one day it will save your life.



posted on Dec, 30 2012 @ 02:06 PM
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The Russian military is an ageing rust bucket

Yah, ha ha. Thats what Hitler and Napoleon both said too (with the weapons of their day).



posted on Dec, 30 2012 @ 02:18 PM
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Originally posted by Militarywarfare
Russia is simply scared.

Those Russkies, doesn't have the economics wealth to compete with the West.


Mmwuuhahahaahahaa quote of the week agent dude.

The "west" is in such good shape at the moment. Not.

This is not a game of chicken I'd want to be playing. The cold war IMO never ended, just the fact media stopped reporting it made everyone get on with their cushy fat system dependant lives.

edit on 30-12-2012 by one_small_step because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 30 2012 @ 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by one_small_step

Originally posted by Militarywarfare
Russia is simply scared.

Those Russkies, doesn't have the economics wealth to compete with the West.


Mmwuuhahahaahahaa quote of the week agent dude.

The "west" is in such good shape at the moment.


Before you think America & NATO can win wars read the link here and see my post on the site I just made yes? Happy New Year to you and yours.
english.pravda.ru...



posted on Dec, 30 2012 @ 02:29 PM
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"Cold War 2" might not be soo cold this time around...

I hope it stays below freezing...

-SAP-






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