Tell Them About The Ships. My Message -

reply to post by Thought Provoker


I do appreciate the method in which you refuted my statements and
the video itself. This is what we need to debate a topic intelligently.

Even though you and I do not agree about everything, does not mean
that we can not talk civilly about it.

+1 to you sir.

Originally posted by yesterdaysreality
reply to post by ThreeDeuce

 

Hello ThreeDeuce,

No disrespect, but I am disappointed. I was waiting to hear about the ships. It sounded like something new. The video is not new either. I've seen that or something similar to it. If it is a ploy to scare people into becoming "saved" as in accepting Jesus and their Lord and Savior, that was not nice at all.

Respectfully,
yesterdaysreality

edit on 30-12-2012 by yesterdaysreality because: (no reason given)

I apologize, and wish that I had more information for you.
Perhaps this is part of my journey, to find concrete information and share it.

But, who really has "concrete" information about ships, other than videos that could
be hoaxed, or personal accounts that could be discounted?

I have seen things for myself. But, no amount of personal experiences
would convince a skeptic who is unwilling to believe. This is just the way
that our society has evolved in our thinking, we are very skeptical.

Originally posted by StareDad
Can you please explain your difference between soul, spirit and mind?
Isn´t it all the same? In my language it translates all the same.

Stare, you are right, they are all saying the similar thing.
But, this protection mantra gives me strength.
It says that nothing can affect my physical body,
my eternal soul inside of me, or my strong mind that guides me.

These are three separate things.

It is almost someone saying that You will not take my Freedom, My Guns, or my Rights.
Sure, guns and money is your freedom, but they are three different things.

Originally posted by 3n19m470
Really? You've seen a growing number of UFO reports in recent years? That's you "telling us about the ships"?

Good god, man! It's a good thing you got the message to us in time! What would we have done had we not known that you have been seeing reports of UFOs?? Not UFOs, but reports of UFOs. It's a good thing that some hyperadvanced dimensional being was able to find a human as advanced as you who could actually receive this crucial message which will have such a profound impact on the future of humanity.

I do not believe that my message came from a hyperadvanced dimensional being.
I believe that my message came from God, who is which I have always communicated.
We have the divine joy of communicating directly to him through prayer.

I could have included UFO reports and crop circles, but would that have made my
message more believable? If you want to study UFOlogy, there are many others
who are following the events across the world more than I am.

I simply, am passing on what I was told. Simply, I could have chosen not to say this.
Admittingly, it is difficult to claim that I "heard" something like this.
But, this is not about the easy path, but being honest to myself and my God.

I do not know that my message was meant to have a profound impact.
Perhaps it has already reached the one person that it was meant for.
Perhaps this is more about MY journey than the message.

I do not have the answers, I only have my experience which I shared with you.

reply to post by ThreeDeuce

It is possible that the message was meant for all of us,

I agree that the message may be for all of us. I have to take caution in some some ways when interacting with members of this community. If not done properly the messages will be in violation of certain T&C agreements of ATS.

I have not mastered this form of comunication with my self.

I am however begining to understand things more clearly, and everyday I remember more and more.

What exactly do you want to know about these ships? I could only speak on what they represent to me, this may or may not represent the same thing to you.

I do not claim to have any answers to anything, quite the opposite actually. The more I communicate with my self, the more I learn.

This is a journey of self discovery for me.

And perhaps you too.

We all have our own reason for being here.

YOS

Originally posted by DJMSN
reply to post by ThreeDeuce

 

Okay...now wait a minute. You stated in your post that you had ringing vibration in your head with a message about ships....then a friend told you about a video which was like your vision. Said video now appears on a sight that ask for donations...which when you refer to the video now...you say "we are doing fine" so apparently this video was one you of all along...just attempting to bump circulation or what ?

You still have revealed nothing about your vision nor have you toold us anything about this video other than it is long...seems a bit hanky to me....so change my mind and tell us more about your vison or whatever and tells us something about the 27 minute video.

Okay...you have gone into a little more detail but I still find it lacking in regards to the video...what is the connection....and your description of the video...soo.

edit on 12/30/2012 by DJMSN because: addendum

Is there a direct connection between the message that I received in prayer,
and the video that I linked in my OP?

I can not say any direct connection.
But, I was shown this video the day after my message, at random.
This video filled me with a sense of good, and fullness.

This made me say, perhaps these are the ships to what I was told.

Is timing important? It is one of the most important things in our lives.
If we can not notice the special timing of things in our lives, then we miss
the high number of synchronous events in our world.


As for the site that I put the video on, it is a site that I have worked
closely with over the years. In hindsight, I should have realized that many
would view this as an attempt to make money, or to drum up traffic
to this website. Both are incorrect, and are just perversions of the truth.

Why would you focus on ill-intent instead of the message?
I now why, because we are a skeptical and fearing society.
We have been lied to and taken advantage of many times in the past.


Let me ask you a question.
IF I wanted to make money, or
If I wanted to make my website busier, or
IF I wanted to drum up fear....

Wouldn't I Have done it before December 21st,
when I could have a flood of 2012s to the site?

Remember, the timing here means alot.
My timing proves that I do not have ill-intent,
my motivations are pure and true.

Originally posted by BrBen
The biggest problem I have with the video is the ending where supposedly Jesus and his followers are clad with all sorts of amour swords and lances and physically charge using these weapons to supposedly physical kill and destroy the enemy.

It shows two groups of men fighting with the amour and weapons of ancient times.

If it were a physical war would not the forces of evil use all the modern weapons of warfare? This video is deceitful and misleading, for the battle is a spiritual one

In all the following scriptures the word sword is used as a metaphor

Isa 49:2 He hath made my mouth like a sharp sword; in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me, and made me a polished shaft; in his quiver hath he hid me;

Rev 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

Rev 2:16 Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.

Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

Rev 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

Rev 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

Rev 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

The sword is a metaphor for the spoken scriptures.

Zech 4:6 Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the Lord of hosts.

Br Ben

Ben, you answered your own question. Swords and Lances are but a metaphor.
I am unsure what you else you are questioning.

You are right.... this video gave me a unique perspective on gun control.
I had a chuckle thinking about everyone fighting over guns, when we
"might" have much more effective weapons at our disposal.

But, then again.. we are a war-like ape race that fights anything they aren't
familiar with. Why would we want higher technological weapons?
So a single man can kill even more people.

The answer comes from the GOOD people using the power of GOOD
for the right reasons, and not to perpetrate evil.

Originally posted by Chamberf=6
reply to post by ThreeDeuce

 

Perhaps you have another issue with this whole topic? Why come and just start insulting people? Do you really think that we are the only sentient life in the whole universe?

But, for you I'm sure it is much easier just to insult people with different opinions,

but....pheonix358 didn't insult anyone....

When I told a friend of mine about the message that was told to me, he instantly thought about cruise ships, where my mind went to UFOs. Surely, they would not be called UFOs once they have been identified. While I have said that I do NOT have information about "ships" in the last few days, I also am a VERY firm believer that there are intelligent people that live on other planets, and other solar systems other than ours

And if your reference to "the ships" was supposed to be taken as ufos, then perhaps you could have stated that from the beginning instead of waiting so long.

"Ships" could mean sea-faring vessels, NASA ships, ufos, etc.

edit on 12/30/2012 by Chamberf=6 because: (no reason given)

This is my interpretation of the message.
Is it correct? I believe so. Can I prove it? No.

If I led with my interpretation of it, that would be leading with speculation,
and this is not the thing to start with. I start with the message, and
then explain why I believe it is what it is.

If someone led with speculation, and didn't explain it fully,
that would look MUCH worse and less realistic.



As for waiting "SO LONG", I would like to point out that I only
waited One Hour and 22 minutes to respond. I think I was cooking
lunch or something else during this time. I do apologize if my
offline life has created skepticism for my responses or
if my activities have infringed upon the time frame that you require answers in.

I would venture to propose that an hour and a half is not "waiting so long"
as you have proposed.


As for Pheonix not insulting anyone.... just look at his response to Ghosts claim
that not all stars are stars as we know it. This is very insulting and is
very counter productive. Just because someone views differently, does not
mean that they need to be talked down to.

Originally posted by Pheonix
I told everyone about the ships nearly a year ago. A bunch of the stars up there aren't really stars. They are ships. Sirius is the obvious one.


WOW, I mean WOW. That must be one hell of a high beam on them there ships o yoursss. Bad, brother, just real bad ass.!

reply to post by TRUELIES11

The ships that carry the light, similar to the shell of a snail. The shell is a ship which is used by the light.

I have a fun idea….

How about you prove that!!

reply to post by ThreeDeuce

As for waiting "SO LONG", I would like to point out that I only waited One Hour and 22 minutes to respond. I think I was cooking lunch or something else during this time. I do apologize if my offline life has created skepticism for my responses or if my activities have infringed upon the time frame that you require answers in.

.

In none of these replies did you address the most asked question: "what ships"?

If I led with my interpretation of it, that would be leading with speculation, and this is not the thing to start with.

But you used it in your title and your OP ..."tell them about the ships".
Then ignored multiple questions of "what ships" repeatedly while replying (during your offline life) about other topics.

And pheonix358 using some sarcasm does not equal him "insulting" someone.

Originally posted by Chamberf=6
reply to post by ThreeDeuce

 

As for waiting "SO LONG", I would like to point out that I only waited One Hour and 22 minutes to respond. I think I was cooking lunch or something else during this time. I do apologize if my offline life has created skepticism for my responses or if my activities have infringed upon the time frame that you require answers in.

Yet in that time you replied several times while you were "cooking" or whatever else in your "offline life".

In none of these replies did you address the most asked question: "what ships"?

And pheonix358 using some sarcasm does not equal him "insulting" someone.

edit on 12/30/2012 by Chamberf=6 because: (no reason given)

Your accountings are completely incorrect.
My first reply, which was 82 minutes after my OP, I talked about UFOs in it.
So there were no other replies before that while I was cooking.

I could sarcastically say that you have a really GREAT way of checking facts,
and that you are a GREAT reader. Both both of these wouldn't be insults..... no
its just sarcasm.

Sarcasm is just a thinly veiled attack, for people who want to be mean and nasty,
but do not have the balls to do it. I viewd his responses as insulting, that is all I know.
Perhaps you have been raised with different morales and values than me.


If you would like to review my Original Post and my first resonse, they are both
on the first page of this thread. If you still refute these easy to research claims,
then I know that you are just creating arguments where there are none.

Are you clutching for such inconsequetial things because you can not debate
any other part of this thread?

reply to post by ThreeDeuce

My first reply, which was 82 minutes after my OP, I talked about UFOs in it.

You didn't say ufos were the "ships" you were supposed to "tell them about" though.

It wasn't until this post where you connected ufos to the "ships" you mention explicitly. pg. 2

Surely, they would not be called UFOs once they have been identified. While I have said that I do NOT have information about "ships" in the last few days,

Then here pg.3

Did you not read the thread? I do not have any direct information about ships from the last week, but have been studying ufology for years. How many people know "nothing" about ufos anyways? This is a common subject, especially around con-theorists.

Are we just expected to think on ATS when someone says "ships" they MUST automatically be talking about ufos and aliens?


And if you have NO information about "the ships" to share, what is the point of including it in the title and the OP???

Chamber, if I talk about ships vaguely,
then in the NEXT reply talk about UFOs,
it does not take a genius to make the connection.

Or are you forgetting that we only term them UFOs
because we don't know what they are, and that their
actual name is a space-ship.

Since I talked of no other types of ships, why
would you criticize me for not being precise enough?
I only talked about one type of ship here.
I even covered this in my first reply.

You are proof that someone can troll over even the
most useless of points. Your argument was not
only useless, but it was baseless also. You have
had no reason to draw these conclusion, yet you
want to occupy my time with a debate that has no meaning,
over a bit of subject that is not newsworthy.

Yes, you read correctly. I would not submit your
inabilities to be able to read in sequential order my
posts and understand what I was talking about.

Neither was I being vague nor deceptive.
Has the power of deductive reasoning come and gone with
our society? Must everything be spelled out?
How can you sit there and say that I took too long
to come out with what ships I was talking about.

82 minutes, first reply, talked about it directly.
Get over it, and please stop the troll.

Would you like to discuss anything else other than you
miss-readings?


Edit to add response to your last question, of if I had no
exact proof of ships why include it in the OP

If you had read my Original Post, you would have read that
I received the message of "Tell them about the ships" during prayer.

This was the original post. Or, did you miss-read that too?
I have even continued to say that I do have information about UFOlogy,
just not during the last few weeks. Wouldn't you want updated UFO
reports and information? This is the only reason that I did not include it.

I have also been fully open with this, and full in describing this.
Or are you basing accusations based on only the first page of this thread?

Dear OP,

If you had only TRULY intended to send a message, then, do acknowledged that you had already serve your purpose. No need to get baited or angry or flustered, which so far, to your credit you didnt.

Your words will be registered for posterity, on the internet, for as many as possible to be aware.

However, each human DO have free will, to either accept or reject the message. Let them be, for it is a personal choice each makes.

Your message is nothing new, for as early as 3 years ago on ATS alone, there had already been posts about stationary unknown crafts above our skies, in many forms, and not as fleeting UFOs that is more commonly posted here.

But, so far, none had came out with conclusive 'evidences' of what those massive crafts are for, except for conjectures and other 'get rich quick' schemes mis-interpretated by greedy others whom had not experienced such crafts but only for self gain at the expense of the gulliable.

Thus, relax....and let issues play out. My take is that as long as resiliant mankind hold firm to their faith and values passed down by our ancestors whom survived much tribulations to give us our todays, most of us mankind will overcome what is to come, as long we leave none behind.

Cheers!

reply to post by ThreeDeuce


That's all fine, but here's the thing:

If you were actually one of the incredibly few to be contacted by ETs, and were given a task to do, I'd think that you'd take it much more seriously than this. After you received the message you pretty much did NOTHING until your friend showed you a video on "youtube", which you then posted here along with your "opinion" of what's going on. That's not taking your experience seriously, and this is why you're not being taken seriously here. You need to begin studying and researching your topic better, and post a more convincing thread. Consider, Mr. Deuce, that people have been studying UFOs for DECADES, if not their entire professional careers and are still not taken seriously. What makes you think a thread like this is what the ETs wanted of you?

Also, did you bother to ask a follow-up question to "tell them about the ships"? How about "How do I do that?", or "Who is 'them' exactly?"

How do you know they were referring to people on ATS?

reply to post by ThreeDeuce

If you had read my Original Post, you would have read that I received the message of "Tell them about the ships" during prayer.

So please recap for me (since you say I cannot read, and since I don't immediately think about ufos when I hear the word "ships")
What have you told us about the ships?

Not trolling here (as you say I have been doing) just don't see why you include "tell them about the ships" in your title and OP, and then say you don't have any information on them.

Originally posted by Ewok_Boba

If you were actually one of the incredibly few to be contacted by ETs, and were given a task to do, I'd think that you'd take it much more seriously than this.

Thank you for pointing that out again Ewok. So that others know, I have NEVER claimed to be
contacted by an ET, or by a higher dimensional being. I have had conversations in my prayers
in the past, and this was the same as that. Never before have I asked an important question,
this one being "What's the One thing I can Do to Help?".

It is my faith that I was talking to God, or an angel, or something spiritual.
Could these all be an Extra-Terrestial? Considering that God is not "of this Earth",
one could make the claim that he is ET, by definition only.

I took it seriously enough to post on ATS, and tell MANY of my good friends.
I have taken the chance of ruining relationships that I have built for many years,
just to tell my message. So, even though I may not have liven up to what you have done,
please do not accuse me of taking it seriously.

Especially posting it HERE. Do you know how much crap messages
I am getting from people. I do not need my character or motives criticized,
yet I chose to post here also. To me, that was serious.

After you received the message you pretty much did NOTHING until your friend showed you a video on "youtube", which you then posted here along with your "opinion" of what's going on. That's not taking your experience seriously, and this is why you're not being taken seriously here. You need to begin studying and researching your topic better, and post a more convincing thread.

Am I now the person who has to make the case that UFOs exist?
This is not the argument that I want to have, and I can't believe that I would need to make this.
The evidence is VERY much in favor of there being UFOs in our skies.
There is the argument that some of them are our government's own crafts,
which just makes more questions of, well.... what else are they not telling us.

I thought that the interested people who wanted to research UFOlogy would already be doing that,
and would already be convinced. Again, I am not to make the case to you about what you believe.
I have told you what I know, and what I believe and can stand on that only.

Consider, Mr. Deuce, that people have been studying UFOs for DECADES, if not their entire professional careers and are still not taken seriously. What makes you think a thread like this is what the ETs wanted of you?

I will side step this insulting remark, and say that I never claimed this to be ETs,
I claimed this to be the spiritual voice inside of me, the one that I attribute to God.

Also, did you bother to ask a follow-up question to "tell them about the ships"? How about "How do I do that?", or "Who is 'them' exactly?"

You have my full retelling of the experience.
I apologize that my actions have not lived up to what you "would've" done.
To be honest, I don't remember where the conversation went after that,
if it ended because I got freaked out, or if there was more.
I just remember my girlfriend yelling to me to bring her a Glass of Water, she was sleeping upstairs.

How do you know they were referring to people on ATS?

Did they say people on the street?
Oh wait, Now I can only tell people on the newspaper.
Why would there be justification on the word "them"?

Them obviously means people, I do not know why you would
consider people on ATS to not be people.

Originally posted by Chamberf=6
reply to post by ThreeDeuce

 

If you had read my Original Post, you would have read that I received the message of "Tell them about the ships" during prayer.

So please recap for me (since you say I cannot read, and since I don't immediately think about ufos when I hear the word "ships")
What have you told us about the ships?

Not trolling here (as you say I have been doing) just don't see why you include "tell them about the ships" in your title and OP, and then say you don't have any information on them.

edit on 12/30/2012 by Chamberf=6 because: (no reason given)

Edit to Add: Do I have to update you on everything that I have written in response
to this thread? It seems as if you are still going off the original post, and not factoring
any responses to questions posted earlier.


I never said that I have NO information about "ships".
I said that I do not have any information relevant to the last two weeks.

There is a big difference here. Just because a weatherman doesn't know
what the weather has been like the past two weeks, doesn't mean that he
doesn't know weather trends for the past 20 years.

I just don't know if UFO sighting and crop circles have changed in the past two weeks.
There is no doubt in my mind, that the literal number of UFO reports, videos, testimonies,
along with all of the crop circles, and responses to our questions on satellites in crop circles,
along with changing and evolving patterns in crop circles,

one could not logically argue against technology beyond our scope, that is able to
travel in space.

What else do you need to know.

The reason that the title was what it is, is that was my message,
that is what I was told. That is what is most relevant.
That is what I lead with, and that is still what I stand by.

You can call me a fool, or a loon, what have you.....
But, I stand by what I was told, interpret it for yourself.

If you want to fear shrimp or crab boats, you can do that too.
This is not what I believe it is, but we all create parts of our own reality.


As for 2012, I have no doubt that we are living in its changes right now.

reply to post by ThreeDeuce

I said that I do not have any information relevant to the last two weeks.

I thought the message was "tell them about the ships"
not "tell them about the ships from the last two weeks"???

If you want to fear shrimp or crab boats, you can do that too. This is not what I believe it is, but we all create parts of our own reality.

Wtf? Where did I mention fear?

btw

As for what this video suggests, is that Obama is the ant-eye-christ,

Does that mean he has ants in his eyes?
Is he the christ of ant eyes?

You keep saying "it isn't hard to figure out", but you do not see that your logic is flawed, as is the logic contained in this video. If it truly isn't hard to figure out what you are talking about, the easiest thing for everyone is for you to simply spell it out.

Spell it out.

Make 3 points. Make these 3 points your most important points. Make them clear, leave nothing vague about any of them. If there is something unprovable or unproven, ignore it. It will only cloud your message of "Truth".

You were "told" to "Tell Them About The Ships", but you can see from the majority of posts that you have not done as you were bid. I would advise, if you truly have information that you believe you need to share to do as follows.

1. Relax. People here will judge you. People here will laugh at you. People here will outright call you a liar. But every person in this thread clicked it to read what you had to say, even if it was to mock and laugh at you.

2. Collect your 3 main points as I already stated.

3. Answer only questions that you know the answers. Do not begin to guess or make assumptions based on the video that you cannot back up. The crazy bit of your post should be your claim (Someone told you to tell them about the ships) your EVIDENCE should not be crazy at all, especially if someone else has provided the information that they want you to get out.

Just remember to spell it out. People will still laugh and yell and get angry. People will still come on in support you and throw in their own brand of crazy and the thread will get derailed. I hope this helps.