Canadian MP Gives A Very Scary Speech On America's Economic Future!, page 3

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reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 10:17 AM by ModernAcademia

Originally posted by kimar
Guys, please do not listen to this fool. He is wrong and the vast majority of Canadians disagree with him.

Why and how is he wrong?
Why do most canadians disagree with him?

reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 11:29 AM by ipsedixit

Personally, I think most Canadians probably agree with him. His speech is redolent of smugger than thou preachiness and pride. They should name a Tim Horton's smoothy after him. "Preachy Pride" (With or without sprinkles of smugness.)

To me this guy is another Bilderberger protege like Obama, like Clinton, like Harper like all the leaders of the Western World. Anyone who thinks that Canada will never face the business end of Imperial America is naive in my opinion. This guy is naive. He doesn't know what end of the limb he is sitting on.

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reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 11:43 AM by johngalt722

reply to post by ipsedixit

I don't think he doesn't believe that Canada will never face these problems. I think he is just bringing to light the issues that others have already gone or are going through and that Canada should not follow in their footsteps.

reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 12:38 PM by 1plusXisto7billion

Does anyone remember when the MOB used to open businesses, run up debt, sell the items out the back for half price, and then file bankruptcy on the company? The same is happening with America.

The rich and people in office are just running up our debt and making a killing. Soon, (within the next decade probably) the economy will collapse and the rich will live in another country where the economy/debt isn't their problem anymore. Sure it will effect the entire world but some parts more than others.

reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 12:39 PM by 1plusXisto7billion

Originally posted by gladtobehere
reply to post by ModernAcademia

their debt is starting to grow mainly because of their increased intervention in the affairs of other nations.

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Why do you think America's debt is that way?... I'll give you a hint, its not because we went shoe shopping.

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reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 12:42 PM by ipsedixit

reply to post by johngalt722

You're probably right. I'm grouchy this morning.

I'm just suspicious of a conservative with his kind of rap. He's way too "All Canadian" for decency in the Conservative Party. The NDP don't dare talk like that because they know which end of the limb Canada is sitting on. The Conservatives, usually act and talk as if butter wouldn't melt in their mouths, like good co-conspirators (with the Americans).

When they start to talk like the bat boy who thinks he manages the ball club, I smell a rat or a joke. I think this guy is being fluffed for bigger and better uses.

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reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 12:45 PM by TheCanuckian

Originally posted by ModernAcademia

Originally posted by kimar
Guys, please do not listen to this fool. He is wrong and the vast majority of Canadians disagree with him.

Why and how is he wrong?
Why do most canadians disagree with him?

He is wrong because he is regurgitating what many have written in papers, so he is not selling his view, rather he is recycling a popular view. Secondly, he says we have solid leadership. That fact is wrong as well. The leadership we have is invisible, Harper is not forthcoming on anything and is not Conservative in nature. He has hijacked the party in essence and brought liberal ideals to it which Canadians did not want when he was elected.

We mostly disagree with this fool because he really doesn't know what he is talking about. While it's true you must reduce spending in a fiscal crisis, we have seen the conservatives spend more not less. So he is a hypocrite to say the least.

reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 12:49 PM by intrepid

reply to post by ipsedixit

I understand your trepidation. I'm conservative and seen crap laid down in recent years that are NOT conservative. In fact today's "conservative" party is merely a hodgepodge of the defunct Reform and Alliance parties. A regional party that is not much different the the Bloc imo. My Conservative MP is one of the best in Ottawa. Mike Chong wouldn't toe Harper's party line and resigned from cabinet before he was fired. Just sayin.

reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 08:21 PM by LoveisanArt

Originally posted by gladtobehere
reply to post by ModernAcademia

Seems like Pierre has been watching Ron Paul videos.

But I'm worried about Canada. As they continue to lick America's boots, their debt is starting to grow mainly because of their increased intervention in the affairs of other nations.

edit on 29-12-2012 by gladtobehere because: (no reason given)

Canada and America are different sides of the same coin.. same people who founded and created Canada, founded and created America, which is an expansion of Britain Empire, which prior was the Roman Empire.

The Canadian flag represents a Red Shield. .. "Rothschild" is translated to Red Shield.. Canada was controlled by the Empire's Queen, until given independance (the next phase of controling North America).

Wikipedia - Rothschild

Bottom line - politics and government are created and used only for the certain people who have an agenda to further push.. these two systems (politics and government) were not ment to help society or the people of.. it was created to gain power.

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reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 09:42 PM by brice

Originally posted by TheCanuckian

Originally posted by ModernAcademia

Originally posted by kimar
Guys, please do not listen to this fool. He is wrong and the vast majority of Canadians disagree with him.

Why and how is he wrong?
Why do most canadians disagree with him?

He has hijacked the party in essence and brought liberal ideals to it which Canadians did not want when he was elected.

Boy are you mistaken....Liberal policies?
The Conservative Government of Canada is a Fascist Dictatorship.
How you can compare the fiscal responsible Liberals with the fire sale Conservatives is beyond me!

reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 10:27 PM by ArchAngel_X

the fiscal responsible Liberals

That one stopped me in my tracks. The Human Resource Development scandal ($1 billion), Firearms Registry Act ($2+ billion), Kyoto Act ($10+ billion), not to mention the smaller and more numerous scandals involving hundreds-of-thousands or millions of dollars such as Shawinigate, Air Ambulances or kickbacks from Quebec.

I'm not saying this in defense of the Conservatives - I dislike Harper, myself - but "the fiscal(ly) responsible Liberals"? HA!

reply posted on 31-12-2012 @ 10:24 AM by ModernAcademia

Originally posted by TheCanuckian
He is wrong because he is regurgitating what many have written in papers, so he is not selling his view, rather he is recycling a popular view.

He is wrong because he is repeating actual fact that is also found in paper?
Think for a second how that sounds......

Originally posted by TheCanuckian
Secondly, he says we have solid leadership. That fact is wrong as well. The leadership we have is invisible, Harper is not forthcoming on anything and is not Conservative in nature. He has hijacked the party in essence and brought liberal ideals to it which Canadians did not want when he was elected.

What liberal ideals? Isn't logical economics outside of partisanship?

Originally posted by TheCanuckian
We mostly disagree with this fool because he really doesn't know what he is talking about. While it's true you must reduce spending in a fiscal crisis, we have seen the conservatives spend more not less. So he is a hypocrite to say the least.

Your thought process seems very americanized.
It seems you only dislike him for partisan reasons.

It's about the individual, not the party!

It's not like Liberals, conservatives or NDP are better than the other.
If you think so then that is where you error lies.

Please explain yourself

reply posted on 31-12-2012 @ 07:55 PM by brice

Originally posted by ArchAngel_X

the fiscal responsible Liberals

That one stopped me in my tracks. The Human Resource Development scandal ($1 billion), Firearms Registry Act ($2+ billion), Kyoto Act ($10+ billion), not to mention the smaller and more numerous scandals involving hundreds-of-thousands or millions of dollars such as Shawinigate, Air Ambulances or kickbacks from Quebec.

I'm not saying this in defense of the Conservatives - I dislike Harper, myself - but "the fiscal(ly) responsible Liberals"? HA!

Paul Martin was the greatest Finance Minister Canada ever had (as PM history will judge him). when Canada was on the verge of fiscal insolvency after the Progressive Conservative Brian Mulroney governance. The Rt. Honourable Paul Martin (finance Minister) Paid down debt and forced austerity programs on Canada. The Liberal Party of Canada left a fiscal Surplus of Billions and Billions (which the Conservative blew through in one year). So what is good for our country Conservative leadership, Debt and the fire sale of Canadian assets to the Chinese?
There was only $100,000.00 (1/3 of a cent per person) unaccounted for in the HRDS hardly worth mentioning.
Firearm Registry was not a scandal, just a poorly implemented program with good intentions.
Kyoto was a good idea just couldn't make goals.
Shawinigate, Really? Scandal over a $615,000 loan to a golf course....a loan?
Air Ambulances.....you are now talking about a completely different political party, not at all in any way, philosophy, ideals or policies connected to LPC!
Kickbacks from Quebec....see air ambulance above, again not connected in any way at all, may as well be the Marijauna Party (yes, in Canada there is a Marijauna Party)!
Every Party makes mistakes and even with theirs the Liberals made Canada the envy of the world. Now Canada is seen as the whipping boy for the U.S. and disgraced.

reply posted on 31-12-2012 @ 09:47 PM by ModernAcademia

Originally posted by brice
There was only $100,000.00 (1/3 of a cent per person) unaccounted for in the HRDS hardly worth mentioning.
Firearm Registry was not a scandal, just a poorly implemented program with good intentions.
Kyoto was a good idea just couldn't make goals.

You are being an apologist.

Every critique you give a conservative could also say "well it had good intentions"

You just have partisan views and would justify anything the opposition would do it seems.

reply posted on 31-12-2012 @ 10:02 PM by brice

Partisan......partisan views! It took you that long enough to figure it out. Look at my avatar....It's Canada's greatest Canadian The Rt. Honourable Pierre Elliot Trudeau. Whom for those that don't know was a Liberal, Thee Liberal....IQ 180!
brice

reply posted on 31-12-2012 @ 10:03 PM by Logarock

Originally posted by gladtobehere
reply to post by ModernAcademia

Seems like Pierre has been watching Ron Paul videos.

But I'm worried about Canada. As they continue to lick America's boots, their debt is starting to grow mainly because of their increased intervention in the affairs of other nations.

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We need to give Canada a break here. Our nations are tied up together in many areas and what goes on here has an effect on them.

reply posted on 31-12-2012 @ 11:34 PM by Preacher76

We're heading into the darkest days we've seen in a very long time.

reply posted on 2-1-2013 @ 12:38 PM by picratus

reply to post by ModernAcademia

here is a simple fact as to this Canadian governmental idiot and all of his stupidity ,we as a nation Canada are farther in debt than the us is per capita as we are the 9th most indebted nation i the world the us is a lot farther down the scale ,so why is it our politicians are selling off parts of Canada at discount rates .
examples our oil sands the 407 pay high way and so on or is this the cost of all of our free trade agreements that they have orchestrated in the last few years as it seems every time they ink 1 of them we as Canadians lose another part of what we have paid for .

reply posted on 2-1-2013 @ 04:09 PM by jcarpenter

Originally posted by SubTruth

The Canadian MP is my new hero. He seems to be very honest also I got the feeling he truly cared about Canada. You guys and gals up in he north don't know how lucky you are.