Also of note is this...
Satan is said to be the leader of the fallen angels who are described as waging "war in heaven".
Angels waging war in heaven?
Now..... IF heaven is a state of mind like I said in an earlier post then it begs to question if in fact there is a war waging in mind sets of angels
and then the question becomes WHY?
WHY would an angelic being all of a sudden want not peace .... but war?
Also, WHEN did this become evident in the game of heaven per our historical writings? Or .... did it only become a happening when they came to Earth
as the Earth is said the have been void, without form? Book of Enoch also describes the fall here on Earth and not in heaven. This also leads me
questioning that when in thought (Gods or plural Gods thought form) did he imagine this would play out with his creation.... and so it was? Why? It
just doesn't make sense to me.
One question is a snowball of questions...... it never ends. lol
So..... WHEN did Satan/Hell become a part of our society? This is relevant to the OP....
By the 3rd century, there is evidence that some early Christians accepted this Jewish Enochic pseudepigraphy and the application of the angelic
descent myth to the "sons of God" passage in Genesis 6:1-4, Its presence not only in the East but also in the Latin-speaking West is attested by
the polemic of Augustine of Hippo (354–430) against the motif of giants born of the union between fallen angels and human women. Rabbinic
Judaism and Christian authorities rejected the tradition. Those who adopted the tradition viewed the "sons of God" as fallen angels who married
human women and by unnatural union begot the Nephilim.[
So Christians and Jews, huh? Nephilim? Sounds also like the Greek Gods (Zeus), or does it?
A Jewish myth of angels coming down to earth rather than being cast down, referred to as the myth of angelic descent, is found chiefly in the
Jewish pseudepigraphic Book of Enoch, 6-9 and the Qumran Book of Giants and perhaps in Genesis 6:1-4. The angels in question were Watchers who
were inveigled by the beauty of human women, had intercourse with them and corrupted mankind. They were the prime instigators of the
sinfulness that led to the Great Deluge. This myth was adopted by early Christianity, but abandoned by Rabbinic Judaism and later
Christianity. During the period immediately before the rise of Christianity, the intercourse between these Watchers and human women was often seen
as the first fall of the angels.[
Seems as though "sex" is still going on in the "state of mind" of souls in Heaven.
YAY!!!!!!!!!!! I think though in all honesty and sincerity
that sex is supposed to be for love and not for perverted pleasure but then again... it does go hand in hand.
Now... check this out... lol
The Hebrew Bible does not say that Satan is an angel, nor that he is fallen: it uses the corresponding Hebrew word, which means "adversary", of
human opponents or some evil influence, but in three places it personifies Satan as a character, always inferior to God's power: it portrays him as
an accuser (Zechariah 3:1-2), a seducer (1 Chronicles 21:1) or a heavenly persecutor (Job 2:1.
IT DOES NOT SAY SATAN is an angel nor that he is fallen.
Origen does equate in early christianity, satan in scripture.... one scripture I may add.
Origen and other Christian writers linked the fallen morning star of Isaiah 14:12 to Jesus' statement in Luke 10:18, "I saw Satan fall like
lightning from heaven" and to the mention of a fall of Satan in Revelation 12:8-9
So basically this theme is carried out and adopted from 3 religions..... The Abraham Religions.
(There is that number 3 again) In The Quran three
angels are said to have fallen. Hmmmmmm..... Maybe these three religions are from Satan.... the deceiver....
The concept of fallen angels is first found in Judaism among texts of the Second Temple era, being applied in particular to Azazel and
Satan. However, from the Middle Ages certain Jewish scholars, both rationalist and traditionalist, rejected belief in rebel or fallen angels,
since they considered evil as simply the absence of good or at least as not absolute. Christianity
"Evil is simply the absence of good or at least as not absolute" = Religion in my view. lol