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posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 11:28 PM
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Greetings AtS

A mental exploration with myself brought a topic at hand. Happens to do with the general conspiracy most here believe - the "theory" that a handful of people, possibly in related bloodlines, are controlling the majority of this planet and race

The means and tools they use; religion, war (military), money (banks), control of food and water supply, pharmecutical and health industry, writing the history and textbooks, science and evolution theory, media (news, movies, TV), the sports industry, oil/auto industry (they go hand in hand), and finally all the major universities and colleges.. which are used to tame the minds of more mature people who are ready to take their position within THEIR soceity

With these things being controlled by a few - in theory - these people would and do control every aspect of society, even to the extent that they claim land masses, create flags and a government and control those particular parts of the Earth

EVERYTHING is controlled by these people who I will refer to as 'elites' for the remainder of the thread. This makes it nearly impossible for a human baby/mind coming into this world via birth, to have full function and control over their minds, and destiny on this planet

We live in a controlled society; humans are metaphorically robotic bodies and minds that are on soceities assembly line until they are able to have a supporting job and home of their own and possibly a family. By this time, their entire minds and destiny is altered and conditioned by years and years and years of artificial and pointless experiences.. so what is left for their remainder of their lives? Work until retirement and go to the grave

Everyday the sun and moon alter our skies; these elites are gaining mroe and more control. We have conspircies because they're are lies! Because these elite people have control over our lives, they make us feel like we have free will - but this is LIMITED in soceity - when we really dont have much free will at all!

Freedom = FREE DUMB = Your dumb for believing your free

So What I want to do here is evalute what we curently understand based on these 'conspiracies' .. so many consciracies and useless # out there; no one is focusing on the REAL problem at hand, the MOTHER and BIRTHER of all conspracies, the reason YOU reading this are even participating this website!

In school they teach us how to indentify a situation; we use the who, what, where, when, why, how template to understand and get the most thorough information we can. So lets start shall we?

Well we really only know (based on theory or conspiracy) 4 of the 6 catagories, this is the; what, where, when, how

Starting with the:

WHAT
We have a said group that is controlling the planet based on the tools and ideas I listed in paragraph 2. To some there is clearly an organization that is secret, that is not known to the public of society, which has control and power over all aspects of our tiny lives

WHERE
Well... planet Earth of course. Society, all major countries with a bank in them. The poorer countries Im sure are poor for a reason, these are places on Earth that do not need wiser population then the bush-man.. Its possible upon speculation and breif research - that these poor lands such as Africa, South America offer RICH natural resources that the elites want most of humanity away from. I mean gold, dimond and other precious gems and metal deposits
Basically Im saying there are no banks and major technology in these countries for a reason

WHEN
Now this one is where my head couldnt get any answers; and based on my knowledge of conspiracies (primarily thanks to Ats
) I have little understanding of how long this has been going on for. One connection I have made is that those white men that first came to north america, had plans. It was no random goal to trave across the flat planet to find what awaits.. I beleive that there was already control by the elites in the Eastern World (todays European Union), we call these the Kings and Queens. They sent men to travel across the world and expand their kingdom, their goal of World conquer
All I myself truely know is that this plan of World conqer is still in plans today, again, hence what I listed in the 2nd paragraph

HOW
The how... well again what I listed in the 2nd paragraph. We do know that religion (especially christianity) has been used the entire time to control humanities faith and minds. At the same time, military, bought by fortune, is used to guard these plans and these particular elites. So at the CORE of 'how' - money, military, religion

*Note* - I do not mean to offend those who follow certain religions such as christianity; it is clearly evident there is no christian God that will save anyone in this life or the after life - its a means to control your faith and rob your truth from birth. Troubled people who fear reality and the after life use religion to mold their life

Now the last two things; who and why? Im using my own limited knowledge to present this to you members of AtS, keep this in mind, Im not saying everything I have said or listed is TRUE and what is happening its based on my understanding and belief of reality in this world

So the WHO - The first people I would look and point fingers at are those in control of government, banks and religion. The biggest standout is the Queen of Britain in my eyes. The one who doesnt really do anything, but has all the power and wealth one could wish for. The Queen has power and control because of what her families and company have done to take control in the past millenia and possibly more

It all roots in the "king and queen" era of humanity - which we today so overlook because life is to hectic to care or think about this right? Its clear to me indiviudally that the Queen and her bloodlines have power because of destruction,domination and control over the previous centuries. Re-writting history would be very beneficial to the Queen and her family army correct?

I would also point fingers at societies who have much to hide and little to show - this is the freemasons I refer too. In Capitol Hill, the head of the pyramid in Washington is not the White House - this is a front, government is a front, politics is a front..the real eye of the pyramid in Washington is:



The Grand Masonic Lodge. Searching for a picture on google I came across this thread which will sum it up better then I could currently: ATS Link

*Note* Newbie freemasons, I do not want to hear you cutting this thread up because Im "pointing" fingers at your organization. FM goes far back alot deeper then a recruit can understand

Mason = to build = to construct = construct society

And Lastly WHY
Whoever it is that geniusly constructed society with their wealth, power and religions have clearly done so to comit to world domination. Maybe they feel "God-like" with all the control over a planet in this universe? I do not have a valid answer as to Why

This is why I present this to AtS; if we invest our time and energy in things that matter, conspiracies worth our time, we can work together and find the truth. To find it, we need eachothers research, knowledge and participatio




posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 11:35 PM
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TextHOW The how... well again what I listed in the 2nd paragraph. We do know that religion (especially christianity) has been used the entire time to control humanities faith and minds. At the same time, military, bought by fortune, is used to guard these plans and these particular elites. So at the CORE of 'how' - money, military, religion


Christianity has only existed for approx 2000 years , it is noticeable you didn't mention Judaism.
It was the basis of the Christian religions and the Roman empire via the christian missionaries who were in fact interpreters of the old testament.
You should state the facts.
Not bash christians and masons.
Or not.



posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 11:39 PM
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The members here on ats spend so much time arguing about things that dont matter, that will not and do not make a difference .. if we can try and add the missing links to this "Mother of conspiracies" we can bring more pieces of the puzzle together.

After all we are a community here on Ats? We sure a heck dont act like it based on what Ive seen the past couple years. Maybe this could be the place to start. Who cares about who shot who, who banning guns, what is up in the middle east... THESE THINGS ROOT FROM THE MOTHER CONSPIRACY!

If kind, wise, and understanding peoples ran the world instead; we wouldnt have so much destruction, un balance, sicknesses, wars, and mixed religions! Society would be a means to develop the human race rather destroy it in chess moves..

If people are interested and truely care to participate and find more answers to the missing link; it would be a great thing. Once these missing pieces (who, why) are filled in, we can better understand what is going on, the root of humanity and Earths problems are, and the sooner these evil cabal can be pointed out and hopefully persecuted.

The ONLY conspiracy that truely matters is this one. Indentifying why and who is controlling our VALUABLE lives daily. Its very evident these elites have not done much beneficiary for humankind and all countries. We are divided, we are controlled, we have no freedom... WHY and WHO is the reasons for this ?

I hope I didnt waste my time.. Im willing to do some research with the spare time I have. But the internet is not the only place this knowledge needs to be found. Libraries are where knowledge was always found before the electronic era.

So I hope others here with spare time and the heart and determination to figure this mystery out, are willing to dig and research as well. If we can gather the correct information, we can make a new thread presenting it to Ats; if we caan find the missing links, it will need to go more viral.

I dont want to jump the gun though, I st remain hopeful of participation and answers. To find out who and why this planet is being controlled; we need thorough research. One click and we can find the surface stuff.. things I already typed and listed.

It needs to get deeper; because who can argue this is not the Mother of conspiracies?



posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 11:41 PM
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Originally posted by OrionsWitness
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TextHOW The how... well again what I listed in the 2nd paragraph. We do know that religion (especially christianity) has been used the entire time to control humanities faith and minds. At the same time, military, bought by fortune, is used to guard these plans and these particular elites. So at the CORE of 'how' - money, military, religion


Christianity has only existed for approx 2000 years , it is noticeable you didn't mention Judaism.
It was the basis of the Christian religions and the Roman empire via the christian missionaries who were in fact interpreters of the old testament.
You should state the facts.
Not bash christians and masons.
Or not.


As I said I have limited knowledge of how this control manifested, and which religions are to blame.. you have jjust given me knowledge to add to this thread! Im not trying to point fingers or hurt feelings; Im trying to find the root of this entire thing.

It takes participation; how can we uncover the truth if we dont work together to find it ?

Thanks for your input though, correcting me is great, I only learn more



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 12:01 AM
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People willingly give of their freedom to obtain the core components of Maslows Hierarchy of needs. The problem is that people depend on others for their most basest of needs. In a world that is driven by the barter system, those with more to barter have a larger controling share of infrastructure and influence. Capitalism opens up opportunity to everyone. Solid work ethic and dedication give people an edge. Some would have us believe that all things would be equal if we could just eliminate the edge, but an inherent few will still control infrastructure and influence, whether it be affluential members of society or government. I won't deny that there is a small group of very influential people that hold a lions share of the influence, but rather I would suggest that it is just a natural part of society. Socialism and communism just enable different groups of people to control influence. I do think that it is silly to believe that those in control of the influence would willingly scale back their influence to further impress their power upon us, although we have seen it happen in the USSR and China, and even though that group of TPTB has a far more leisurely life than the Western world, they must live in constant fear of losing their power and influence. So, yes, there is a small lucrative group that has a monoply on influence, there relly is no conspiracy, but capitalism helps to keep it in check and opens doors for those of us with much more humble beginings.



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 12:24 AM
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Excellent thread OP...

This is THE most important subject on ATS.

VERY few understand it..

Here is WHY:


"it is clearly evident there is no christian God that will save anyone in this life or the after life - its a means to control your faith and rob your truth from birth."


This is one of MANY lies that TPTB have pounded into our heads since birth.

This lie and others like it make it nearly impossible to get to the root of this whole mystery.

You MUST come to the point where you can differentiate between the truth and the lies.

Until you do you will just be grasping at straws and looking in ALL the wrong places (the queen for example).

Read "PAWNS in the GAME".

This is the book to read if you want to learn all the details of the Illuminati and their plans to take over the world.

The following quote is from page IX in the introduction:


"The Illuminati started long before 1776, It has it's roots in the mystery religions which the knights Templar perpetuated. In Nimrod's time, Semiramis brought back the mystery religions which were from before the time of Noah. The Illuminati was just a different name by which these same entities existed. They can change their name a thousand times, but the same entities run it."

Note the Illuminati in Jesus' day:

"The Old Testament is simply the history of how Satan became prince of the world, and caused our first parents to defect from God. It relates how the synagogue of Satan was established on this earth, it tells how it has worked since to prevent God's Plan for the rule of the universe being established on this earth.

Christ came to earth when the conspiracy reached the stage that, to use His own Words, Satan controlled all those in high places. He exposed the synagogue of Satan (Rev. 2:9;3:9); he denounced those who belonged to it as sons of the Devil (Lucifer), whom He castigated as the father of lies (John 8:44) and the prince of deceit (2nd Cor. 11:14).

He was specific in His statement that those who comprised the synagogue of Satan were those who called themselves Jews, but were not, and did lie (Rev. 2:9; 3:9). He identified the Money-Changers (Bankers), the Scribes, and the Pharisees as the Illuminati of His day." LINK



One group and one group alone is responsible for virtually all wars and bloodshed on the face of this planet. This evil cabal is few in numbers but, like a deadly octopus, its tentacles reach out to grip and strangle untold multitudes of innocent victims. The initiates of every secret society and internationalist organization, from the Council on Foreign Relations and the Jesuits to the Bilderbergers and the Order of Skull & Bones, obey the dictates of this sinister group and tremble when standing before its leaders.

The cabalist group I refer to is the Synagogue of Satan, an ancient, yet modern, elite so politically powerful and so fabulously wealthy that even past history has been twisted, reshaped, and revised to meet its preferred version of humanity's gloomy, totalitarian future.

Religious in nature, the Synagogue of Satan is, at its essence, a grotesque, satanic cult. It's high council is composed of High Priests of Lucifer; these are men who literally worship death while practicing sexual magick and occult rituals of the blackest nature.

The Synagogue of Satan





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posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 12:20 PM
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Yes, thank you for your brief conclusion. It does make sense that if people do not participate in their game, do not acknowledge governments and police forces, law and court.. we can take the Free will back they have cleverly stolen from us no?

The elites in control are NOT the WORKERS of this world. They only stand there with large bank accounts and bad intentions, point fingers where they want the humans to build .. they are the "architects" of soceity. But they did NOT and are not making society happen; WE the poeple are.

Its when the average man/woman - the police, the military, the farmers, the scientists.. average humans who make society happen; when these people individual participate in their own game and not that of government and politics, then society can bend for the 99%.

But every person in society today needs to understand how this society works first; what people are in charge, and how/why they got that power, and what is their intentions.

You talked about China; I have a feeling that anyone controlling major countries is tied to these bloodlines. You do not run a country without their acceptance and plans. Governments on the outside are suppose to look against eachother, but they could be the same chess pieces in the end.. everyone in society is their pawns.

Again pure speculation and assumption based on limited knowledge of these people and what is going on..



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 12:59 PM
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Good information, I've heard about the Synogogue of Satan, but never truely acknowledged it.

I didnt mean to specifically point out the Queen, as Im very sure she is nothing but a family puppet, one innocent seemingly person with all that power - sitting on a gold throne..

Its those behind the Queen who work the "magik". But I have little detail, information or knowledge on the Queen and her famill history..

There are other faces within history/soceity that we can weed out.. from the top of my head here is one:

Freemasonry Described by Albert Pike



"Masonry, like all the Religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled; to conceal the Truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it. Truth is not for those who are unworthy or unable to receive it, or would pervert it....


This man, Albert pike, was a 33rd degree Freemason who also wrote a book on freemasons. He also had plans of three World Wars that would set stage for a so called nWo or "novus ordo seclorum " in their sweet latin language..

Here is a link to a freemason site where his book "Morals and Dogmas" can be examined and read:

www.freemasons-freemasonry.com...

Latin too is a strange connection; I read something a couple years ago (absolutely no reference now) that latin was created so these people among these secret crafts (freemasonry is a Craft as well as a society) could hinder their communication.. As far as to put it on the American $1 bill.. "novus ordo seclorum".

Latin language could give clues in its roots, but it is not as significant as to who and why right now...

The very fact this Santa Claus looking guy wrote out ways to trigger 3 World Wars (clearly one is in motion - look at the state of America today and anyone can see war is nigh) is super intriguing! Because this man who wrote this book over 100 years ago, is 2/2 !!!!





Albert Pike explained in Morals & Dogma how the true nature of Freemasonry is kept a secret from Masons of lower degrees



"The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry. The whole body of the Royal and Sacerdotal Art was hidden so carefully, centuries since, in the High Degrees, as that it is even yet impossible to solve many of the enigmas which they contain. It is well enough for the mass of those called Masons, to imagine that all is contained in the Blue Degrees; and whoso attempts to undeceive them will labor in vain, and without any true reward violate his obligations as an Adept. Masonry is the veritable Sphinx, buried to the head in the sands heaped round it by the ages. " 3


Even those who want to beleive they are freemasons and they understand what the craft is about; re very mislead. Its so evident, this is why I find it very humorous when initiate masons on AtS come and fight toth and nail about what the craft is about and what it is not... they have no clue and either do we.

The fact that George Washington and other founding fathers of America were Freemasons is another clue - before freemasonry was set to seize the rest of the World - who ordered these people to travel to what is now America and Canada? It all started in the Eastern World, America is an aadopted and very spoiled son to the real masters in the East..

Back to the Albert Pike guy - I have read online just now that the letter about three world wars was a hoax.. I belive this to be a cover up or a front. Either way the bottom line in reality is this: there have been 2 intentional world wars, and there is another one very soon to break out... its so evident.

Back to George Washington - As much as America wants to praise this man and his "foundings" (or robbing and killing) people of America know little about this man. ust lke Obama, little background on characters who play the biggest role in the country
but they end up with all the love and praise they need from sheeples..

We have no idea what art G.W was into.. its evident he was a freemason, its evident their is symbology all over Washington. What does one have to do to 'found' a country? I believe it must start with slaughter, robbing, lies and deception.

G.W was furthering his families kingdom and power on Earth..



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 01:12 PM
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*Note* Newbie freemasons, I do not want to hear you cutting this thread up because Im "pointing" fingers at your organization. FM goes far back alot deeper then a recruit can understand


So a current mason couldn't understand but YOU can? explain please

Are you a current Mason, former Mason, or just a troll with an axe to grind? What enlightenment have you acquired that NO "Newbie" could understand? What is it exactly that is beyond "Newbie" comprehension?



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by Carreau
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*Note* Newbie freemasons, I do not want to hear you cutting this thread up because Im "pointing" fingers at your organization. FM goes far back alot deeper then a recruit can understand


So a current mason couldn't understand but YOU can? explain please

Are you a current Mason, former Mason, or just a troll with an axe to grind? What enlightenment have you acquired that NO "Newbie" could understand? What is it exactly that is beyond "Newbie" comprehension?


Are you a current mason? Why do defensive?

Its not about enlightment, actually when viewing the craft from a non bias perspective, the Masons are far from true enlightment.

No I am not a mason lol.. but if its not clear to you as it is to me - that Freemasonry is a front for the ones who are at the highest levels of this craft - maybe one of us has been mislead?

Newbie = initiate, one who is at the amatuer level and understanding of the craft. Gearge Washington and company were not initiates - I doubt an amatuer within the craft could travel across the planet and form a country which would latter go on to further world domination or exnd their kingdom..

I apologize if I offended a fellow mason. The initiates do not want to belive that they are lied to purposely to hide the truth of the craft..



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 03:09 PM
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Do you have ANY proof of this or is it just your opinion?



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 03:33 PM
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Let me go on the record to state: You don't know what the hell you are talking about... If TPTB own Freemasonry, which is supposed to be satanic along with the third eye, they wouldn't be dumping fluoride in our water to calcify and disrupt it. Employ some critical thinking skills here.




Albert Pike explained in Morals & Dogma how the true nature of Freemasonry is kept a secret from Masons of lower degrees


That is not what he said at all. What he did say was that the secrets of Freemasonry are kept from everybody outside the Craft. That means the common lay-person that follows whatever commandments their 'masters' tell them.
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posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 03:39 PM
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No. He doesn't have any proof at all. Just an exoteric understanding of esoteric knowledge. Such interpretations are always bound to be wrong.



posted on Dec, 30 2012 @ 12:07 AM
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Originally posted by Carreau
Do you have ANY proof of this or is it just your opinion?


Have you paid any attention to my posts? Or skimmed through, saw something you didnt like and had to respond with haste?

"I have limited knowledge on the topic, that is why I bring this here to AtS" - OP



posted on Dec, 30 2012 @ 12:14 AM
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If TPTB own Freemasonry, which is supposed to be satanic along with the third eye, they wouldn't be dumping fluoride in our water to calcify and disrupt it, would they?


When you can admit that you don't know the answer to the above, this thread might take a step into clearing up the ignorance of this fraternity. You people are being made to fear something you know nothing about, bringing a true ring to "The people fear that which they are ignorant of."

You aren't supposed to know about the Third eye, because billions of slaves waking up at once, would be very bad indeed for Satan and his armies. But don't worry, they are more than content to use it against you, while you wallow in the ignorance.




*Note* Newbie freemasons, I do not want to hear you cutting this thread up because Im "pointing" fingers at your organization. FM goes far back alot deeper then a recruit can understand Mason = to build = to construct = construct society


Yeah, I knew it. You really don't have a clue what you are talking about, other than the disinformation campaign, meant to lead you away from it in the first place.

Please, do tell me where these 'Higher-Level Masons' can be found; or do they just hang out anonymously on Youtube with no verification for their claims, other than what a bunch of other 'profane' are saying about an organization they've never even been in?

Hell, I'm not even a Mason, but I know more about it than all of these 'Anti-Masons' put together.

Oh brother....
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posted on Dec, 30 2012 @ 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by VeritasAequitas
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Let me go on the record to state: You don't know what the hell you are talking about... If TPTB own Freemasonry, which is supposed to be satanic along with the third eye, they wouldn't be dumping fluoride in our water to calcify and disrupt it. Employ some critical thinking skills here.




Albert Pike explained in Morals & Dogma how the true nature of Freemasonry is kept a secret from Masons of lower degrees


That is not what he said at all. What he did say was that the secrets of Freemasonry are kept from everybody outside the Craft. That means the common lay-person that follows whatever commandments their 'masters' tell them.
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Easy my friend.. no need to jump on me


Im not blaming freemasonry, but I have a strong feeling towards them and their role in society.. It seems that a lot of the higher people in public view belong to some sort of secret organization. Do you disagree with this?

Some presidents (including the "founding fathers") were freemasons. Albert Pike was just a clue and a reference.. there are more significant characters in history who belong to Freemasonry and other cults/crafts which could all be branches of the same thing/people.

Freemasonry and the occult have infiltrated the space program as well. Which is arguably tthe most invested area our governments create.

NASA Masonic Conspiracy

"Freemasons in Space"



Neil Armstrong, Jr. is not a freemason; his father, Neil Armstrong, Sr. is an active freemason. (Ohio Grand Lodge of Freemasons records).


I apologize if I offended your beliefs or understandings of these things; as Ive said Im one person on the internet with limited knowledge, trying to find pieces to the pzzle



posted on Dec, 30 2012 @ 12:40 AM
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Why?
a) because they feel it is their duty,
b) because they want to,
c) because they can.



posted on Dec, 30 2012 @ 12:45 AM
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I'm not 'jumping' on you. I do believe that maybe some of the members of TPTB are in Secret Societies, but it is undoubtedly because they know the point of it all; opening your third eye. It has nothing to do with the organizations as a whole being corrupt or worshiping Satan.

It is when people attempt to mislead the 'profane' like this that get's me worked up. Please, read some of the actual texts, I have quite a few in the 'Library' link of my signature. Don't go around taking some nameless Masons word for it because he's a 'Higher-Level', this isn't Pokemon man...



posted on Dec, 30 2012 @ 12:46 AM
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Originally posted by VeritasAequitas
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If TPTB own Freemasonry, which is supposed to be satanic along with the third eye, they wouldn't be dumping fluoride in our water to calcify and disrupt it, would they?


When you can admit that you don't know the answer to the above, this thread might take a step into clearing up the ignorance of this fraternity. You people are being made to fear something you know nothing about, bringing a true ring to "The people fear that which they are ignorant of."

You aren't supposed to know about the Third eye, because billions of slaves waking up at once, would be very bad indeed for Satan and his armies. But don't worry, they are more than content to use it against you, while you wallow in the ignorance.




*Note* Newbie freemasons, I do not want to hear you cutting this thread up because Im "pointing" fingers at your organization. FM goes far back alot deeper then a recruit can understand Mason = to build = to construct = construct society


Yeah, I knew it. You really don't have a clue what you are talking about, other than the disinformation campaign, meant to lead you away from it in the first place.

Please, do tell me where these 'Higher-Level Masons' can be found; or do they just hang out anonymously on Youtube with no verification for their claims, other than what a bunch of other 'profane' are saying about an organization they've never even been in?

Hell, I'm not even a Mason, but I know more about it than all of these 'Anti-Masons' put together.

Oh brother....
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You are a quick one.. lol



Please, do tell me where these 'Higher-Level Masons' can be found


I've already pointed out G.W was a FM and I'm sure his company were alike.




Hell, I'm not even a Mason, but I know more about it than all of these 'Anti-Masons' put together


Hi
... if you know so much you can drop the hostie approach and share your knowledge


That was the purpose of this thread, clearly you didnt read the OP. Your defensive attitude is suspicious


If you have something useful to share then please do, I would like to know what Im misunderstanding and other pieces to this mystery.




If TPTB own Freemasonry, which is supposed to be satanic along with the third eye, they wouldn't be dumping fluoride in our water to calcify and disrupt it, would they?




When you can admit that you don't know the answer to the above, this thread might take a step into clearing up the ignorance of this fraternity. You people are being made to fear something you know nothing about, bringing a true ring to "The people fear that which they are ignorant of."


- TPTB wouldnt own freemasonry, Freemasonry would be a BRANCH of the TPTA(re).

- 'Which is supposed to be": you seem as if you have a lot of knowledge on the topic at hand but you present a 'supposable' statement


- I dont know what the third eye has to do with anything I have said, or satanism.. that was your own input or Im missing something I said earlier? I've perceived with my third eye, I understand it. This is not something I "fear"..
My partner's insight is much more aware then mine. But again this is only significant to your un-significant statement about the third eye.

Yes I can admit I dont know the answer to the above; as Ive jsut pointed out I didnt understand what your point was or what you were really asking? "I dont know what the third eye or satanism has to do with anything".
You can clarify more so I can understand


Calling me "you people" is seperating yourself from a group you are stereotypicaly putting me in
Instead of judgment you could approach another person with a conversation, you will learn more about them, which could surprise you..


I dont know what Im ignorant of ?? I tell you I dont fear what you might think I do.. Im afraid of open water, hieghts, and large spiders.. but other then that Im pretty calm and collective


If you have good information to add, please do. You have a lot to say about it obviously; so you probably have a lot of knowledge on the subject. Could be why it seems "sensitive" to you?



posted on Dec, 30 2012 @ 12:52 AM
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Originally posted by VeritasAequitas
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I'm not 'jumping' on you. I do believe that maybe some of the members of TPTB are in Secret Societies, but it is undoubtedly because they know the point of it all; opening your third eye. It has nothing to do with the organizations as a whole being corrupt or worshiping Satan.

It is when people attempt to mislead the 'profane' like this that get's me worked up. Please, read some of the actual texts, I have quite a few in the 'Library' link of my signature. Don't go around taking some nameless Masons word for it because he's a 'Higher-Level', this isn't Pokemon man...


Why would you end a reference with 'Pokemon'? Are you a still a child?



The point of it all is to open your third eye? Myself individually understand how this natural ability is useful for every human; but in this thread that will not be a focus. If you belive the third eye is very key to the elites, please present information..

I dont want to have to go through your own library to find information. You could reference it here yourself


I havent talked to any mason or anyone pretending to be a high up.

Now Im interesting as to what you know?






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