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posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 08:55 PM
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My wife and I were talking a bit tonight. The subject got around to Chrome and the Sync/Google Server storage of Bookmarks and more, then how that likely tracks and records a WHOLE lot more about us. Eventually..we both got to thinking..... If someone totally unaware of our time and interest in ATS and other sites like it were to analyze our home's traffic patterns, what might they see? I wonder, have many considered this?

On any average day I may be in many places around the net. Many Odd, Obscure and even BAD places. That sounds all fine and innocent enough...until one stops to consider what that means for a person that spends a great deal of time in News stories, researching news stories and sourcing information relating to all of it. In recent days for various threads for example I've researched some of the following online:

  • The deliberate spread of forms of Venereal Disease and how to infect unsuspecting people (How to accomplish and counter)

  • The construction and performance details of known E.M.P. designs and deployment in RW weapons

  • Effects, Deployment and Countermeasure for Anthrax as well as detailed reports of it's wide release in 1979 to including medical summaries

  • Proper procedure as trained in POST Academies for police securing their weapons around prisoners in their station

  • Man Portable Nuclear Weapons and their specific security arrangements at Seal Beach (Historical Interest...don't get any ideas..lol)

  • Network topography for the servers used by the Council on Foreign Relations

  • Military traffic, material, regular shipping volume and on going trends for U.S. Ports from Maine to Texas.


I chose to only show a few things directly relating to what anyone can find in my profile under threads I've posted to recently. Not started mind you, simply replied on. All of the above are items I can show specific threads and explain why with one exception and it's a thread I might create myself here soon...I'll leave ya guessing which.


To someone who has no idea I'm Wrabbit2000 at AboveTopSecret ...or doing similar Non-ATS research stuff ....what does that list look like? Mentally Deranged? Someone Dangerously off their Meds? Perhaps a Domestic Terrorist in final planning phase for....(Good God..look at that list, would ya? What IS that maniac planning to do!?)

So, who figures they've been looked at, at least in passing? How many of us have a file somewhere with anything from a single sheet follow-up to show the computer flag got checked and nothing was interesting ..... To many sheets of context and background for others?




posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 09:07 PM
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My wife has told me several times that I'm probably on ten different FBI watch lists. I am the same way. I find a topic that interests me and then study the heck out of it. And alot of the topic that I have studied have been "conspiracy" theories. She laughs when I tell her "Hey, people actually do conspire."



posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 09:11 PM
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I don't care who sees or what they think about the sites I visit. I randomly surf all sorts of stuff, some interesting, some boring, some enlightening, some annoying. (ATS fits two of those descriptions but I wont say which two because ..you know... the mods are like the government these days..)


Anyway, Net activity is research and is similar to someone going to the library. Imagine being watched for going to the library? I'm researching the Sentinelese..does that mean I'm going to invade their island? yes, that whats it means to some. Well, lets let the insane and troubled people think that. I gives them reason for living.

So relax, there are mad watchers. But they cannot touch you, you only think they can.... and so feed the paranoia that pervades this site and others.



posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 09:21 PM
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The funny thing is, it's not just your ISP who gets to look at your searches, if you look at this wiki entry, you can see how easy it would be for your entire internet history to be released to the public:
en.wikipedia.org...

The problem with that is the fact that nearly all of us at some point have done a vanity search in google, or looked up a few old friends, or looked up our address on google maps etc.

Imagine if all those searches were leaked by accident, you were identified and had your face all over the local rag... You wouldn't be the most popular kid in the neighbourhood that's for sure.

In my case, if I was ever accused of a crime that required my internet history being analysed, I think I'd just confess rather than have someone look through it.



posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 09:38 PM
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It is an intriguing thought. What bothers me is that no one can really analyze the context in which one searches the net. Do I visit conspiracy sites because I am anti-government or because I am entertained by the whacky stories?

Someone could look at my browsing history and assume the worst, but it is really quite innocent haha.

What bothers me most is that someone will assume the worst by drawing false conclusions about me.



posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 10:09 PM
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Of course you are on Government list somewhere,

We all are.

so what

when the bastards one day come to your house to take you in the night never to be see again

That act, will wake the rest of the people, and revolution will begin,

So in the end, you have nothing to worry about,



posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 10:23 PM
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reply to post by JewAgainstZionism
 

Ummm... If they come in the middle of the night and 'disappear' me...Who will ever know what happened to me to 'start' anything or get mad? Confusion and loss would be all I'd think would happen. Someone might even suggest I ran off myself to start a new life or something. I've heard that used to explain disappearances with no other good reasons.

I'd also note, for whatever he may have actually done....Jose Padilla was arrested and imprisoned out of a U.S. Airport with no charges, no trial and no access to attorneys. It's already happened and people barely lifted their glance to notice. I'm not sure how many will do much more than tell each other 'At least we didn't do anything wrong' if they happen to see a neighbor being escorted out by suits into a federal car. In these days of Neighborhoods already half empty by foreclosure? I'm not sure the property standing empty would even be noticed for months ...depending on time of year for grass growing.


(By the way..for context to the thread in general...I've used first person a bit here but that's not to say I'm personally concerned. I'm not, beyond general curiosity on a question I hadn't even thought of quite this way)



posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 10:39 PM
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One thing the world wide web has taught me is that I'm a lot more normal than I used to think I was .
I used to think I was a bit of a perv , come to find out I'm not even close .

I'm not very worried about it , I think it's not so much what you're looking for as where you're looking for it . ( usually )



posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 11:39 PM
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Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
My wife and I were talking a bit tonight. The subject got around to Chrome and the Sync/Google Server storage of Bookmarks and more, then how that likely tracks and records a WHOLE lot more about us. Eventually..we both got to thinking..... If someone totally unaware of our time and interest in ATS and other sites like it were to analyze our home's traffic patterns, what might they see? I wonder, have many considered this?

On any average day I may be in many places around the net. Many Odd, Obscure and even BAD places. That sounds all fine and innocent enough...until one stops to consider what that means for a person that spends a great deal of time in News stories, researching news stories and sourcing information relating to all of it. In recent days for various threads for example I've researched some of the following online:

  • The deliberate spread of forms of Venereal Disease and how to infect unsuspecting people (How to accomplish and counter)

  • The construction and performance details of known E.M.P. designs and deployment in RW weapons

  • Effects, Deployment and Countermeasure for Anthrax as well as detailed reports of it's wide release in 1979 to including medical summaries

  • Proper procedure as trained in POST Academies for police securing their weapons around prisoners in their station

  • Man Portable Nuclear Weapons and their specific security arrangements at Seal Beach (Historical Interest...don't get any ideas..lol)

  • Network topography for the servers used by the Council on Foreign Relations

  • Military traffic, material, regular shipping volume and on going trends for U.S. Ports from Maine to Texas.


I chose to only show a few things directly relating to what anyone can find in my profile under threads I've posted to recently. Not started mind you, simply replied on. All of the above are items I can show specific threads and explain why with one exception and it's a thread I might create myself here soon...I'll leave ya guessing which.


To someone who has no idea I'm Wrabbit2000 at AboveTopSecret ...or doing similar Non-ATS research stuff ....what does that list look like? Mentally Deranged? Someone Dangerously off their Meds? Perhaps a Domestic Terrorist in final planning phase for....(Good God..look at that list, would ya? What IS that maniac planning to do!?)

So, who figures they've been looked at, at least in passing? How many of us have a file somewhere with anything from a single sheet follow-up to show the computer flag got checked and nothing was interesting ..... To many sheets of context and background for others?




With no relationship to this site, I would guess you were either a college student or a small scale reporter/blogger with those topics, but of course I tend to think the best of people



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 01:54 AM
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My wife is the same way about always seeing the best in people until proven otherwise. I guess it makes for a good balance in personalities vs. mine. I know it probably doesn't show at all, but I'm a bit cynical at times.


Hopefully anyone ever looking across traffic logs of busy members of this site and many others across the net are as naturally positive. I can't help but wonder at times though.....about that virtually unlimited size server farm going in at Tooele, Utah. You know, it's really funny but before 2010 I'd only ever hear the ATS name in passing and I think that might have been either Coast to Coast AM or maybe Matt Drudge's show. So I've driven right past that construction a hundred times over the years crossing I-80 into Reno and/or Northern California with freight but never knew that was the new N.S.A. Super Computer center going in.

Like I said above..I'm not personally concerned and that also has to do with the fact if saying or learning things are a point to worry about, I'm so far past the point of being in the dog house, it's more like the outhouse for me. At the same time? They aren't putting Mega-Billions and YEARS of construction into something with that capability ....just to upgrade what they already do and nothing more. Oh well.. This was just a 'throw it out there' kind of thread to consider the whole idea.



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 07:44 AM
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Someone has already pointed out that many of us are already on some sort of "list".
Being on a government pension , a blogger/reporter, a state licensed "gun toter" I'm sure I fit that profile.
I caould really care less about my internet browsing history 'cause I haven't been to the darknet since I was a worker bee and had "ligitimate access".
Until there is a real reason to LOOK @ YOU (by the govt.) - IMO your internet history isn't much of a worry.
Just don't use Chrome or IE!

ganjoa



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 07:50 AM
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Yeah, wow, I dont think any of us will be good to go. I dont even want to post what a month of my history would look like.

But, I dont really care. If I was confronted with it I would be honest and say YUP, I saw that. I am not a criminal or a terrorist so I dont really care.

1 guy one cup....I might not mention publicly. but, YUP I saw that.....
edit on 29-12-2012 by zedVSzardoz because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 09:49 AM
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I am a christian,a supporter of Israel,a gun owner,a prepper,
anti-islam and a member of ATS.I get regular emails from
Jewish-christian organizations and other christian preppers.
I am on a list somewhere I am sure of that.
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posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 10:02 AM
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I am one of those people who think like that. I also think of things like, if i was murdered, what would they find in my house for evidence.

Mine would actually be boring. I am a habitual user for the most part. Until like others said, a subject catches my eye and I research the snot out of it.

so other then my dalliances to BAD areas as the poster put it, lol. I am pretty boring.



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 10:58 AM
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psst...
let me share sumthin' with ya'
the government monitors us.
maybe individually, definetly collectively [think hit counters]
use it against them ... view as many conspiracy sites as you can,spend all day at it.
bookmark 'em, accept cookies, save pages and pdf.s

the more the better, they'll think more and more people are on to them.
and they'll be scared.
... pass it on.



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 01:03 PM
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An excellent topic and situation to mull over. S&F.

Especially considering that everything you do IS tracked. Every website visited. Every email read or composed. Every txt message sent or received. Every credit card purchase... EVERything.



I'm sure my recent electronic history looks like:
- ATS
-Txt msg
- Poker
- Txt msg
- Speck or for iPhone 5 cover
- Poker
- Facebook update/read/comment
- News
- ATS
- Email check
- Porn
- Txt msg
:
:
[and, that's just this morning]



edit on 12/31/2012 by SquirrelNutz because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 1 2013 @ 05:45 PM
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I just got used to the fact that they are "watching", but indirectly. In reality, I don't think that the NSA is watching ATS for the next terrorist or threat. I've been in jail (a while back, but I'm in the system, nonetheless), own multiple guns, and I have a facebook accout, so I'm on the map. Big deal.
They have everyone's search history, every email and text you sent, but I doubt they take the time to look at it all given the fact they are trying to watch every adult in the US.

But last year I got my panties in a bunch when the census bureau came to my house. I received the census papers in the mail, threw them away. Then I got another one, file 13 again. I received a third one, whatever. Then I get a letter in the mail telling me I have to fill out the census paper they will be sending me soon, and that ended up with the other forms. The letter said that my home was specifically chosen and they "can't use another household".

Anyway, a few weeks after that someone from the census bureau comes, and I went ahead and complied. I was so hot, though, that they would harass me for months about a stupid census, so I guess they know me now, maybe the NSA or justice dept. can help me with my next gun purchase.



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 12:23 AM
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Nothing too exciting on my computer, and I don't care either except maybe a few dirty stories and emails sent to a certain someone who enjoys reading them. Ahahaha. other than that my browser history is pretty dull compared to some.

Though after a bad stint with migraines, out of curiosity, I looked up how to perform a lobotomy and posted it on Facebook. Yeah, I'm twisted like that.

I think the only time they would really look into a person if there was reason to suspect illegal activity. I think they probably have tags (no idea how it would work) or something that sends up red flags. Anything to do with child porn I'd suspect would be an immediate red flag. But even then - unless the person is already under suspicion I doubt authorities would look into it much.
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posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 04:34 PM
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Nothing too exciting on my computer, and I don't care either except maybe a few dirty stories and emails sent to a certain someone who enjoys reading them


Perception is in the eye of the watcher, not the watched.

(the "I'm not doing anything wrong ,so who cares" argument only goes so far - if you piss SOMEbody off, at SOME point, that has ANY kind of ax to grind AND the ability... they will find something to wreck your sh:t)



posted on Jan, 3 2013 @ 05:08 PM
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Meh. Do you honestly think with millions of computers around the world if not billions that the authorities would take time to look in each and every computer? I doubt it. I think some people are way too paranoid about this.





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