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reply posted on 29-12-2012 @ 11:07 AM by Wifibrains
reply to post by AfterInfinity


Your argument would have merit if it said on the package, "subliminal sexualy explicit content" but it's hidden and most parents are unaware, because it's subtle and is picked up by the subconciouse.


reply posted on 29-12-2012 @ 11:13 AM by AfterInfinity
reply to post by Wifibrains


but it's hidden and most parents are unaware, because it's subtle and is picked up by the subconciouse.


Do parents have to be aware of the negative influences in the world to teach their children good things? No. If little girls are emulating the examples provided by Disney, then the parents aren't doing enough. Plain and simple. The television is not raising the children. The parents are.


reply posted on 29-12-2012 @ 11:19 AM by BlueMule
Originally posted by onequestion
reply to post by BlueMule


Ok, how do we explain the repetitive and explicit sexual content? Just trying to understand.


That's not the right question. The question is about artistic inspiration. Is the artist in charge of it? Nope. If that were the case then there would be no such thing as writers block. Artists don't have complete control over the art. Artists don't even have complete understanding of it. Artists don't have to be aware of any layers of meaning in order for that layer to be there. Artistic inspiration doesn't come from the planning of the conscious mind...so conspiracy is not at the root of the matter. It comes from patterns in the collective unconscious. Patterns which can be found in world myth and religion.

So trying to lay the 'blame' for material that one finds personally objectionable at the feet of a conspiracy of artists shows a misunderstanding of the creative and mystical process. Ultimately, the buck doesn't stop at the conscious minds of any conspirators. No conspiracy is required as an explanation. So, Occams razor eliminates the need to posit a secret society.



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reply posted on 29-12-2012 @ 11:33 AM by ezekielken
reply to post by Ladyk74

I can see that it is your right eye, and you are crying. Thank you.


reply posted on 29-12-2012 @ 11:42 AM by Ladyk74
reply to post by VeritasAequitas


I never made such a statement...of course it has existed before.

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reply posted on 29-12-2012 @ 11:54 AM by Ophiuchus 13
Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by Ophiuchus 13


Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13
But what of the GOD(S) of GENESIS..
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Well, according to The Sumerian Texts - the creators (Elohim / Annunaki) wanted to use humans as slaves and was angry when the God of the Earth (Enki - Serpent) gave humans knowledge to free themselves and to learn and grow.


If we are going to go into exact data interpretations, then arpgme WE must first accept that first... Modern day translators of the ancient data related to FATHER ANU and his Son(s) LORD ENKI and LORD ENLIL is not 100% accurate 1 says this to further pull mind(s) to better filter data internally. With this in mind that the data as best deciphered by people(s) like Zacharia Stichin may he rest, you individually begin to consciously link. In a way that may become the filler data for the potentially miss(ed) understood.

EX:
Something as simple as a feather may be drawn / sketched tilted a certain way in drawings on floor /ceilings and mean something totally different then being interpreted. But may pass or be accepted as truth and reconfigure future found text as they are interpreted. Further distracting from truth... many potentially may have done on accident and bless them for trying to understand the past, BUT SOME SMH some MAY HAVE DELIBRITLY modified text data to derail say future projected powers so they will fall victim to some nefarious activity in the end placing the power were it started, well that is on EA*RTH.. So to simplify arpgme, some data may or is mis understood and misleading (don't know if for deception - ignorance or both) This can effect future /present interpreters of the data as you and the but as our minds/conscious within the collective chisel at different areas of non truth WE find truth in pieces/fragments and like a puzzle must connect them to design the best answers on truth of these DIETIES mentioned.

Seraphim(s) and Cherubim personal question:
arpgme and others who read... no need to answer direct send it telepathically from the data on these entities would they be considered ET to living and what living consider dead beings (once the living beings recognized them from both planes) ? Do to them being able to manage their ENERGIES on THESE 2 known PLANES OF EXISTENCE both life and death sides?

-I guess what I am asking is if any beings can go back and forth like say LORD JESUS CHRIST was is said to do is this normal ET or more CREATOR CREATION GOD sent beings to GUIDE other CREATOR CREATIONS since they were are giving passage back and forth. as perceived by humans and Extraterrestrials both alike who perceive life and death the same sometimes. closed-
These DIETIES CAN or may be GRANTED ABILITIES to see/interact with CREATOR Creation(s) in current life as its called mode and make observations from whatever DIMENSION they are within @ that moment and assist or control from the other side. Depending on the frequency level your soul/spirit/internal energy vibrations ATTRACT you too... You encounter these Entities that may have been in similar life and death phases within EXISTENCE as are WE now they have ASCENDED TO HIGHER PLANES... and so can go back and forth and I don't know but there may be others with this ability who are worshipped lets just say elsewhere and have ascended for their GREAT positive deeds with their people(s) of their realm of Existence or for their heavy negative deeds. That may have turned them into LOWER demiz or overlords of the negative (traps perhaps perhaps)


Originally posted by arpgme
So, if this is correct, I would say that they are just as bad. Then again, looking at the story in another way, maybe these creators thought that by keeping humans without knowledge, things would remain simple and peaceful... it is hard to say either way.


Very hard to make the exact call my friend but at least we are trying... This is why 1 wonders how some can have super egos as if they have 100% data with the technology they may have of ancient times for again it can be bonding them to something more sinister... TESTING their souls for the HIGHER KINGDOM STILL!?
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reply posted on 29-12-2012 @ 11:56 AM by Wifibrains
reply to post by AfterInfinity




Do parents have to be aware of the negative influences in the world to teach their children good things? No.


Influences...no, but to know the difference between negative and possitive you must first know them both to compare, so yes and no.

If parents are unaware, and the messages are subtle if not subliminal, they are being deceived and their childrens psyches being attacked, or not? Don't get me wrong, my kids have the whole collection, lol, I'm sure most of us were brought up with a dose of Disney.



The television is not raising the children. The parents are.


Or should be
the thread does toutch upon this subject too, in one of the vids I think, most main caractures are orphans already or the mother is killed. All go off on there own adventure...Destroying family bonds and the need for it, or just an emotional story line?

Many nursery rhymes have been written to have a subliminal effect on us, conditioning I think it's called.

My girls don't watch Disney anymore......south park and family guy now
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reply posted on 29-12-2012 @ 12:14 PM by Afterthought
reply to post by Ladyk74


Thanks for posting the Taryn Simon lecture. That was amazing and extremely disturbing on many levels.
She certainly has a way of revealing truth with her camera lens. It's about time someone turned the camera around for once. Disney's rejection letter to her was strange and whoever wrote that letter is obviously in the know about the mind control and brainwashing that occurs on the property.


reply posted on 29-12-2012 @ 12:22 PM by OneNationUnder
The All-Seeing Eye, the Pyramid, Obelisks, are everywhere. Like in Season 4, Episode 8, the Christmas episode of "Las Vegas." When Big Ed Deline brings the cast into his office to pick names for the Secret Santa, lo and behold what is on the table in the middle of them all? A sculpture of a pyramid and an obelisk. Those 2 sculptures can be seen in other places around his office as well, throughout the whole season. In another episode, a man is examining the obelisk when Ed walks in then quickly puts it down.

Do a little experiment as you watch popular TV shows. How many times can you spot a pyramid on a shelf in the background? Or the All-Seeing Eye in a painting --in the background?

Starting January 1 and going throughout the month, watch closely and make notes then start a thread here on ATS and everyone will post heir findings. You will be surprised!

The Virgin Mary a few years ago said they're showing these Satanic symbols to prepare us for what is about to come: people will be openly worshiping these images and symbols and Christians, as well as other religions will allow it. Very soon a NEW ceremony will be added to many churches.

The quest is for a 1 World Government so Satan can be seated to rule it. That's what this is all leading to! When you are presented to make the choice --either accept his Mark or not accept his mark, which will YOU choose? Better think about it because you'll have to choose on the spot, within seconds they'll want an answer.


reply posted on 29-12-2012 @ 12:37 PM by Ophiuchus 13
Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by Ophiuchus 13


Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13
But what of the GOD(S) of GENESIS..
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I know two things for sure though:

1) Everything is made of energy


YES, accepted as well here. This is the connection to the CREATOR who manages our LIFE and DEATH Energies. It makes sense when you view things down to the micro how positive & negative and the lol elusive neutral energy interact (within space) that space is a connection too??? On topic all the way up to the MACRO this makes sense to go on to 1 it seems..

Originally posted by arpgme
3) Energy is Life/Love/Appreciation which sustains itself otherwise it breaks down and change form



accepted...


Originally posted by arpgme
2) Energy is eternal although it may move and change form



accepted.. making us ALL as CREATOR Creations (ETERNAL)


Originally posted by arpgme
so in reality there are no "superior" beings, there is only one (infinite field of energy),
but this one is also all individuals (energy forms).


All "IS" 1 yes no matter how formatted keeping in mind the Laws of ATTRACTION and ENERGY as well.

Originally posted by arpgme
Another thing that I am becoming convinced of is that this energy (ALL) is actually ELECTRICITY!

Which is why all color, sounds, and even radio frequencies are on the ELECTRO-magnetic scale.



arpgme

NAMASTE*******
LOVE LIGHT ETERNIA
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reply posted on 29-12-2012 @ 12:38 PM by Ladyk74

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reply posted on 29-12-2012 @ 12:51 PM by rmoss20
Witches? Really? The Monty Python world is real:

CROWD: A witch! A witch! A witch! We've got a witch! A witch!
VILLAGER #1: We have found a witch, might we burn her?
CROWD: Burn her! Burn!
BEDEMIR: How do you know she is a witch?
VILLAGER #2: She looks like one.
BEDEMIR: Bring her forward.
WITCH: I'm not a witch. I'm not a witch.
BEDEMIR: But you are dressed as one.
WITCH: They dressed me up like this.
CROWD: No, we didn't... no.
WITCH: And this isn't my nose, it's a false one.
BEDEMIR: Well?
VILLAGER #1: Well, we did do the nose.
BEDEMIR: The nose?
VILLAGER #1: And the hat -- but she is a witch!
CROWD: Burn her! Witch! Witch! Burn her!
BEDEMIR: Did you dress her up like this?
CROWD: No, no... no ... yes. Yes, yes, a bit, a bit.
VILLAGER #1: She has got a wart.
BEDEMIR: What makes you think she is a witch?
VILLAGER #3: Well, she turned me into a newt.
BEDEMIR: A newt?
VILLAGER #3: I got better.
VILLAGER #2: Burn her anyway!
CROWD: Burn! Burn her!
BEDEMIR: Quiet, quiet. Quiet! There are ways of telling whether
she is a witch.
CROWD: Are there? What are they?
BEDEMIR: Tell me, what do you do with witches?
VILLAGER #2: Burn!
CROWD: Burn, burn them up!
BEDEMIR: And what do you burn apart from witches?
VILLAGER #1: More witches!
VILLAGER #2: Wood!
BEDEMIR: So, why do witches burn?
[pause]
VILLAGER #3: B--... 'cause they're made of wood...?
BEDEMIR: Good!
CROWD: Oh yeah, yeah...
BEDEMIR: So, how do we tell whether she is made of wood?
VILLAGER #1: Build a bridge out of her.
BEDEMIR: Aah, but can you not also build bridges out of stone?
VILLAGER #2: Oh, yeah.
BEDEMIR: Does wood sink in water?
VILLAGER #1: No, no.
VILLAGER #2: It floats! It floats!
VILLAGER #1: Throw her into the pond!
CROWD: The pond!
BEDEMIR: What also floats in water?
VILLAGER #1: Bread!
VILLAGER #2: Apples!
VILLAGER #3: Very small rocks!
VILLAGER #1: Cider!
VILLAGER #2: Great gravy!
VILLAGER #1: Cherries!
VILLAGER #2: Mud!
VILLAGER #3: Churches -- churches!
VILLAGER #2: Lead -- lead!
ARTHUR: A duck.
CROWD: Oooh.
BEDEMIR: Exactly! So, logically...,
VILLAGER #1: If... she.. weighs the same as a duck, she's made of wood.
BEDEMIR: And therefore--?
VILLAGER #1: A witch!
CROWD: A witch!
BEDEMIR: We shall use my larger scales!
[yelling]
BEDEMIR: Right, remove the supports!
[whop]
[creak]
CROWD: A witch! A witch!
WITCH: It's a fair cop.
CROWD: Burn her! Burn! [yelling]
BEDEMIR: Who are you who are so wise in the ways of science?
ARTHUR: I am Arthur, King of the Britons.
BEDEMIR: My liege!
ARTHUR: Good Sir knight, will you come with me to Camelot,
and join us at the Round Table?
BEDEMIR: My liege! I would be honored.
ARTHUR: What is your name?
BEDEMIR: Bedemir, my leige.
ARTHUR: Then I dub you Sir Bedemir, Knight of the Round Table.


reply posted on 29-12-2012 @ 01:57 PM by Ladyk74
reply to post by CIAGypsy


As I have stated before....I'm presenting information I believe to be useful and educative. I said these are my personal beliefs and conclusions i came to, after studying the subjects and material, I mentioned that anybody in here can take what they believe is useful and make up their own mind. If your view doesn't match mine that is fine, I'm not going to defend the info and material as I have presented it.


Feel free to post or make your own thread on why you believe the Rothschild family is not on top of the ladder or at all involved with the illuminati, hopefully with as much research material like in this thread. LOL.


On the note of its the parents fault . You do know what subliminal is do you? Have you watched the Disney video and researched some of the subliminal links with info?

They do not know! Symbol literacy and repetitive patterns. Be aware, and learn. I grew up on Disney, just like everyone else. This is why exposing some of this, might bring some awareness.
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reply posted on 29-12-2012 @ 02:10 PM by Ladyk74
reply to post by rj5000


Or the material. Porn played on Disney. Walt Disney is a 33 degree Free mason, phallic symbol and hidden symbols...subliminal sex messages. But yeah of course they didn't originate from Disney, this has nothing to do with what is presented here.
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reply posted on 29-12-2012 @ 02:12 PM by CIAGypsy
reply to post by Ladyk74


Oh, I'm very familiar with Disney. Even authored a thread on Disney.... And its not that I am anti-conspiracy. But I do believe in providing substantiating proof on a belief and not just making wild accusations.

Considering the Rothschild family began long before Disney was even conceived, what proof, argument, whatever you want to call it, do you have to tie them together in collusion to enslave the masses? A symbol? If that's the case, then you may as well make the claim that the Nazi's were really carrying an ancient Chinese, Greek, or Indian agenda.... Most symbols are cross-cultural. And when you get down to meaning, well...there are whole movements dedicated to understanding them.

Rothschild family are not Luciferians and I would love to see you prove your libelous claim otherwise.
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