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posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 03:43 AM
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Lol. Exactly what I said thought it was. Edited audio files that were already available uploaded to YouTube. And this is what leads you to believe you have special insight that the owner of the car was an unrelated 3rd party? Seriously?

Why are you portraying this as something special? What is the source where anybody can pay a subscriber fee?

Interesting that SO posted this...

"The wildly foolish self-absorbed conjecture regarding the massacre in Newtown, CT has, in my opinion, thrown the quality of conversation on ATS all the way back to how horrible it was before we started our 6 years of hard work... The staff and I will not let you ruin our years of hard work and suffer your ridiculousness."

...the day after you started to speculate on the "minute oddities" of the radio broadcasts.

Have you figured out yet that the radio broadcasts are an example of what one ATS member called "murder porn?"

Just because God gave you a mouth doesn't mean you always have to use it. Same with a computer keyboard.

Have you ever considered that it's just fate that it wasn't YOUR real name mentioned on the police radio? Would you be discouraged at the complete lack of human decency if your name, or one of your children's names, was being recklessly linked to the mass murder of kids in your neighborhood by kooks on the Internet.

Even if CAR (hey, that's ironic, eh? Or is another clue???) is an ex-con, it's still no excuse to continue to attempt to link him to this.

Just something to think about.




posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 03:48 AM
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I said everyone can do their own independent thinking. I merely provided the single recordings and I have not implied anything regarding children or parents, or accused anybody of a crime. Please do not put words in my mouth. Actually these full versions are the first on YouTube, and are only for educational purposes.
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posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 05:43 AM
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Originally posted by Ladyk74
reply to post by sconner755
 


I said everyone can do their own independent thinking. I merely provided the single recordings and I have not implied anything regarding children or parents, or accused anybody of a crime. Please do not put words in my mouth. Actually these full versions are the first on YouTube, and are only for educational purposes.
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Well actually you said yesterday after hearing these mysterious separate recordings you believe the car was the 3rd party's. The police said the car was Nancy Lanza's so you're clearly implying the police are lying, which is probably a crime. Either way for what purpose did you post the audios if not to call into question the conclusion about the car, and the truthfulness of the explanations by the police?



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 07:11 AM
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Originally posted by swansong19

Originally posted by PaperbackWriter
reply to post by CinnamonHearts
 


It's about as likely as Jessica Ghawi being at the Toronto mall shooting and at Aurora, also.
And that her brother, Jordan is a SWAT team leader that just so happened to be so nearby that
her body was identified with a quickness that would make one tend to believe he was actually already
in Aurora at the time.


I'm beginning to notice some law enforcement connections within these families, as well. Not that that neccessarily means anything...but we get back to statistical anomalies. There's actually a statistically anomalous number of statistical anomalies in this story.
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I noticed
- Victoria Soto's cousin Jim Wiltsie, a police officer
- Nancy Lanza's brother Jim Champion from Kingston who worked for a number of years as the captain of the police department
Are there still more?


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posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by DelMarvel

Originally posted by bknapple32

I agree. I couldn't think of a reason to smash the computer.


To quote the Boomtown Rats on the subject of school yard shootings:

"They can see no reasons
'Cause there are no reasons
What reason do you need to be shown"

Lanza wasn't necessarily acting rationally and there could be any number of seemingly illogical reasons why he smashed his computer.


Or his mom smashed it, went to bed, and Adam stayed awake to plot and plan.



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by Marlow

Originally posted by swansong19

Originally posted by PaperbackWriter
reply to post by CinnamonHearts
 


It's about as likely as Jessica Ghawi being at the Toronto mall shooting and at Aurora, also.
And that her brother, Jordan is a SWAT team leader that just so happened to be so nearby that
her body was identified with a quickness that would make one tend to believe he was actually already
in Aurora at the time.


I'm beginning to notice some law enforcement connections within these families, as well. Not that that neccessarily means anything...but we get back to statistical anomalies. There's actually a statistically anomalous number of statistical anomalies in this story.
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I noticed
- Victoria Soto's cousin Jim Wiltsie, a police officer
- Nancy Lanza's brother Jim Champion from Kingston who worked for a number of years as the captain of the police department
Are there still more?


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Those are the ones I have as well.

Not sure if there are more at this point.



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 02:55 PM
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Originally posted by swansong19
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Those are the ones I have as well.

Not sure if there are more at this point.



Someone has a cousin that's a cop and you're calling that a "statistical anomaly?"

Are you folks really serious with all this or is it yanking of chains?



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 03:28 PM
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Originally posted by DelMarvel

Originally posted by swansong19
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Those are the ones I have as well.

Not sure if there are more at this point.



Someone has a cousin that's a cop and you're calling that a "statistical anomaly?"

Are you folks really serious with all this or is it yanking of chains?


No, they're are serious.

We've actually reached the point of analyzing how many Girl Scout troops there were in the area, and discovered that each troop had an average of 6 girls. There is also a statistically anomaly to the number of troops in the area (too many) and size per troop (too small).

Some here feel they can count the number of children in classrooms more accurately than the parents and school administration, and others feel that the police are intentionally lying about who owned the car the shooter drove to the school.

The search warrants are sealed for 90 more days, so expect it to get much worse, and expect ten years from now for those who "discovered" these anomalies to still be telling their friends how SH was a conspiracy and only they know the real story.



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 03:39 PM
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I stand by that. I went to the fb page and all these condolences are there. Each one pretty much says what Troop number and state the condolence came from. That would be expected.
What was not expected, is that no one gave them the troop number for these girls.
No one even listed them by name either.

Now, I don't care how you spin it, that is questionable.
I am not blaming the Conn.Girl Scout page. I am questioning who reported this to them.
Anybody would think that they would have a post stating something like:
Emilie Parker Troop # 1234
Madeline Hsu Troop # 4567
Allison Wyatt Troop # 1234
Ana Marquez-Greene Troop # 6789

For example. I don't know that any of these girls were the girls in question because they didn't bother to list
them.
Just a general thoughts and prayers for the people of Sandy Hook.
That's odd, I don't care who you are.



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by PaperbackWriter
reply to post by sconner755
 


I stand by that. I went to the fb page and all these condolences are there. Each one pretty much says what Troop number and state the condolence came from. That would be expected.
What was not expected, is that no one gave them the troop number for these girls.
No one even listed them by name either.

Now, I don't care how you spin it, that is questionable.
I am not blaming the Conn.Girl Scout page. I am questioning who reported this to them.
Anybody would think that they would have a post stating something like:
Emilie Parker Troop # 1234
Madeline Hsu Troop # 4567
Allison Wyatt Troop # 1234
Ana Marquez-Greene Troop # 6789

For example. I don't know that any of these girls were the girls in question because they didn't bother to list
them.
Just a general thoughts and prayers for the people of Sandy Hook.
That's odd, I don't care who you are.


Again, the same pattern.

"..what was not expected...."

That's only your expectations. When things don't match your expectations maybe the problem is with your expectations, not the behavior of other people.

"..anybody would think..."

No, just because YOU think something doesn't mean anybody would think it. Because you think something doesn't mean it's the way it should be.

Continue to "stand by" your cutting, in-depth detective work regarding the Girl Scout connection. Let us know when you find anything useful. Maybe you will be the conspiracy theorist who finally makes it big an uncovers the real story behind the mass murder of 20 kids. Good idea focusing on the Girl Scout angle.



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 04:03 PM
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And if someone keeps digging and comes up with the names and troop numbers you would no doubt find something wrong with that. Somebody's name spelled wrong. The wrong street listing for an address. A girl in a picture who was reported as quitting the month before. Not being able to see somebody's feet. This is beyond disturbingly ridiculous.



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 04:04 PM
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Well, of course my contention is they didn't list any girls and their troops is because there aren't any records to support it.

Because, that is a loose end that could be tracked down. If they bothered to list the individual girl's name,
her troop, her troop leader, then that is something that could be verified.
So it is left conveniently absent.

I think this is was a drill. I am personally happy if it turns out that there are NO children killed.
That is how this topic started that there were no independent people who are verifying this.
To whit: This link was given as "proof" from an outside source that they are deceased.
When it proves nothing of the kind without those details.



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 04:21 PM
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Such a busy busy bee you are sconner!!

Joined ATS Dec 24th 2012 and already 230 posts and counting!! What an excellent new member guys and gals!

dec 24th 12:48am to 3:31am 12 posts
dec 25 1:05am to 2:11pm 23 posts
dec 26 3:15pm to 11:53pm 33 posts
dec 27 12:10 am to 11:52pm 48 posts
dec 28 12:01am to 10:49 pm 53 posts
dec 29 2:16am to 7:18pm 9 posts
dec 30 2:00am to 11:46pm 19 posts
dec 31 12:07am to .................34 posts and counting!!

approx. 2/3rds of these 230 posts are sandy hook related!

I don't believe you made an introduction thread, so let me take this opportunity to wish you a happy new year and welcome to ATS!!









posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 04:28 PM
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It appears to be late afternoon and having rained alot. I think it must have been on Sunday as was stated
previously was the plan, based on the weather.

www.wunderground.com...

Sunday is the first day it wasn't sunny.

But, of course, that would conflict with what we were later told. And would not allow time for the autopsies.
I am not sure how long it takes to do even one. Especially with the finding and removing of an alleged 223
bullets. How long would it have taken Carver to do the seven he stated?



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by PaperbackWriter
Well, of course my contention is they didn't list any girls and their troops is because there aren't any records to support it.

Because, that is a loose end that could be tracked down. If they bothered to list the individual girl's name,
her troop, her troop leader, then that is something that could be verified.
So it is left conveniently absent.

I think this is was a drill. I am personally happy if it turns out that there are NO children killed.
That is how this topic started that there were no independent people who are verifying this.
To whit: This link was given as "proof" from an outside source that they are deceased.
When it proves nothing of the kind without those details.


So as part of this drill you believe Robbie Parker, Emilie Parker's father, is an actor?

Really? You don't believe there's any proof anybody died?

Note from Skeptic Overlord:

"I and our staff have witnessed the most incredible shameless self-absorbed credulous nonsense from our members following one of the worst horrors ever to hit a small community -- much less any community.

And this thread is the absolute worst display of your ludicrous narcissistic conjecture -- outing personal details of a private citizen and mocking him on the pages of our precious ATS for the world to see.


You should be ashamed -- but clearly, you're not capable of that. "


So all 20 funerals were faked too? The mourners actors?



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 04:58 PM
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Why are derailing the thread topic? It's not about me. Why is it important for you to spend time researching and posting my posting history?



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 05:05 PM
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This thread has to do with Overlooked Evidence. You use this thread and all other Sandy Hook threads to insult most of us.
Because you joined this site on Dec 24 2012, and all your posts are on Sandy Hook, and all your posts disparage anyone who wants to understand wth happened.
You only stop posting when you have to sleep. You only post in the threads about Sandy Hook. Why did you join this site? Something not quite right with you!
Don't you have any other interests on ATS? Something is wrong.


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posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 05:11 PM
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Why do you feel the need to attack me personally?

What's wrong is described best by SO:

"I and our staff have witnessed the most incredible shameless self-absorbed credulous nonsense from our members following one of the worst horrors ever to hit a small community -- much less any community.

"...the absolute worst display of your ludicrous narcissistic conjecture..."

"You should be ashamed -- but clearly, you're not capable of that."

I'm not what's wrong here.



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 05:18 PM
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I'm not what's wrong here.


Then show some evidence that you're the one that's right.



posted on Dec, 31 2012 @ 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by PaperbackWriter
reply to post by GrantedBail
 


It appears to be late afternoon and having rained alot. I think it must have been on Sunday as was stated
previously was the plan, based on the weather.

www.wunderground.com...

Sunday is the first day it wasn't sunny.

But, of course, that would conflict with what we were later told. And would not allow time for the autopsies.
I am not sure how long it takes to do even one. Especially with the finding and removing of an alleged 223
bullets. How long would it have taken Carver to do the seven he stated?


You know...now that you mention it...how's this for an odd coincidence.

On October 12th 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary held a "fire drill".
www.sandyhookfire.com...

On the morning of this drill...as you can tell from the photo posted to twitter by Dawn Hochsprung it was a sunny fall morning.
twitter.com...#!/DHochsprung/media/slideshow?url=pic.twitter.com%2FF1121xE7

But notice in the first pic at the Sandy Hook Fire Dept site...what the day turned into...

Each group was also given time to meet the firefighters and then headed outdoors for a few minutes to see (and, when the rain stopped, go through) Engine 442.

I didn't look much further into it...but now...reading your posts and realizing that the footage of Dec14th also begins sunny and ends wet...

Well...you likely get where I'm going.





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