Obama Orders Pay Raise for Biden, Members of Congress, Federal Workers, page 1

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Topic started on 28-12-2012 @ 01:21 PM by seeker1963

President Barack Obama issued an executive order to end the pay freeze on federal employees, in effect giving some federal workers a raise. One federal worker now to receive a pay increase is Vice President Joe Biden.

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So here we are being told that we are ready to fall off the so called "Fiscal Cliff" and walla!!!! Our dictator and chief gives ALL federal employees a payraise!

Executive Order

So I guess the blame really does fall upon us slaves, while our elected officials and their army of employees get lavished with raises for their unwavering sevice......

Due to my anger at seeing this order, I cannot comment any further.......apparently our government is just going to spend us into one big bottomless pit.....

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reply posted on 28-12-2012 @ 01:27 PM by miniatus

The pay raises appear to be minimal at best .. $900 per year in most cases.. as much as I want to, I can't find myself angry about this... $75 per month .. $37.50 per pay check .. before taxes mind you.. hell, perhaps this will put them in a better mood so things get done..

We have far more pressing issues than a tiny pay increase

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reply posted on 28-12-2012 @ 01:27 PM by Donahue

reply to post by seeker1963

This is why every state should stop following the federal governments rules. the government has gotten too big. I say all the states should get some balls and boot the federal government to the curb. They've proven time and time again that they only exist to make every ones life a living hell.

reply posted on 28-12-2012 @ 01:30 PM by dc4lifeskater

you know what they say smoke em if you got em! same goes for spending.. spend it while you can!

reply posted on 28-12-2012 @ 01:30 PM by marbles87

reply to post by miniatus

While the country is in DEBT any pay raises is a smack to the face of the American people. If anything a pay CUT!

reply posted on 28-12-2012 @ 01:30 PM by seeker1963

reply to post by miniatus

The pay raises appear to be minimal at best .. $900 per year in most cases.. as much as I want to, I can't find myself angry about this... $75 per month .. $37.50 per pay check .. before taxes mind you.. hell, perhaps this will put them in a better mood so things get done..

We have far more pressing issues than a tiny pay increase

It all adds up does it not? Do you not see they hypocracy that we are expected to sacrifice and suffer, but federal employees (whom get payed by taxpayer money) get raises? Plus when you take the number of all federal employees it adds up quick...

reply posted on 28-12-2012 @ 01:32 PM by scorpiosin

reply to post by miniatus

If I was as bad at my job as these guys are, I wouldn't be getting any pay increase at all, I would be FIRED. How about some performance based increases for these guys like most large corporations do? I guess no one would ever get a raise...

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reply posted on 28-12-2012 @ 01:33 PM by goou111

reply to post by seeker1963

wow if anything these guys need a damm paycut..

how can they justify this???

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reply posted on 28-12-2012 @ 01:34 PM by marbles87

reply to post by scorpiosin

Not to mention they all make 4 times or more than the average American wage as it is.

reply posted on 28-12-2012 @ 01:35 PM by miniatus

Originally posted by marbles87
reply to post by miniatus

While the country is in DEBT any pay raises is a smack to the face of the American people. If anything a pay CUT!

Ultimately they are employees... I've gotten a raise while the country is in debt.. is that hypocritical? indeed it isn't .. It was a TINY amount.. it's a fraction of a drop in the bucket .. even added up it's minor .. I just can't get angry about such small things when there's bigger issues.. I kind of find it petty to be honest.

I get angry about many things in government.. they could fractionally cut military spending and more than make up for what small amounts we're talking about.. I'm all for being mad and telling the big bad government we won't take it anymore.. but not over such a small thing like this.. sorry if that upsets you, but we all are allowed our opinions.. wake me up when it's more than a tiny fraction of an amount then I'll agree.

reply posted on 28-12-2012 @ 01:35 PM by scorpiosin

Originally posted by marbles87
reply to post by scorpiosin

Not to mention they all make 4 times or more than the average American wage as it is.

Right?? And these figures don't even count the special interest and lobby money that I'm sure most of them receive as well.

reply posted on 28-12-2012 @ 01:36 PM by goou111

Originally posted by marbles87
reply to post by scorpiosin

Not to mention they all make 4 times or more than the average American wage as it is.

let them make the damm federal minimum wage... at least untill we get our spending under control

reply posted on 28-12-2012 @ 01:38 PM by Crakeur

On the contrary, if politicians were paid differently, with higher possible salaries, you might actually get some bright minds applying for those jobs. As it stands, the entry point in politics is horribly low salaried and, even the top job, president, pays very little when you consider what they're doing. They should be paid based on accomplishments. Balance your budget, earn XXX amount. Bring down the deficit, earn XXX amount. Avoid wars, etc.

Right now, with political salaries being so low, there are only a few types of people who strive to gain those positions. Failed lawyers, con artists and the wide eyed dreamers who think they are going to actually make changes in the world. Once this last group learns that there's precious little they can actually accomplish, they either split the political scene or fall into the con artist/failed lawyer category.

Lastly, the raise is fine since, come Monday, the government can't afford to make payroll.

reply posted on 28-12-2012 @ 01:38 PM by Juggernog

reply to post by seeker1963

Isnt that how true dictators do things when they cant get their way diplomatically? You wont compromise? Fine, Ill just sign a decree.
Something needs to be down about the "executive order" power.

reply posted on 28-12-2012 @ 01:39 PM by Wrabbit2000

He's one cheeky little bastard. I'll give him that. Pardon my French........

There are 10's of thousands of people that will lose their ability to earn a living ..partially by HIS OWN DOING...in just a few days. These are the people he ORDERED the layoff notices be delayed on so they went out after the election and not before. Nothing has improved for those poor people, since Obama is now set on how to BLAME for this failure and not how to FIX ..BEFORE good people are destroyed by it next week.

I don't care if the raise was $1. If ANYONE is losing their jobs as a result of Government cuts? Exactly how can any of those in LEADERSHIP justify that extra dollar? This story is obscene and Marie Antoinette would be proud of the tone deaf nature of this stunt.

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reply posted on 28-12-2012 @ 01:41 PM by littled16

reply to post by seeker1963

Well you know that when the Bush tax cuts expire we don't want our under qualified, over paid federal employees to have to cough up anything out of their own pockets like the rest of us- why, that would make them just normal peons! How dare we begrudge them raises when we're about to go over the fiscal cliff! We act like it's OUR money or something!

End sarcasm.

reply posted on 28-12-2012 @ 01:42 PM by Daemonicon

Originally posted by miniatus

Originally posted by marbles87
reply to post by miniatus

While the country is in DEBT any pay raises is a smack to the face of the American people. If anything a pay CUT!

Ultimately they are employees... I've gotten a raise while the country is in debt.. is that hypocritical? indeed it isn't .. It was a TINY amount.. it's a fraction of a drop in the bucket .. even added up it's minor .. I just can't get angry about such small things when there's bigger issues.. I kind of find it petty to be honest.

I get angry about many things in government.. they could fractionally cut military spending and more than make up for what small amounts we're talking about.. I'm all for being mad and telling the big bad government we won't take it anymore.. but not over such a small thing like this.. sorry if that upsets you, but we all are allowed our opinions.. wake me up when it's more than a tiny fraction of an amount then I'll agree.

I think the difference is though, these are FEDERAL employees being paid by tax dollars. If it is a private company, and they want to give raises despite the deficit, fine, go ahead. I think it is wholly irresponsible to give raises using tax money, when we don't have the money in the first place.

reply posted on 28-12-2012 @ 01:42 PM by beezzer

reply to post by seeker1963

Thank goodness! They just don't get paid enough for all that they do for us! Please, Chairman Obama, give them more.