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Originally posted by Wertdagf
Parents deserve ALL the blame. You cant have the majority of influence over someone for the majority of their life and not end up with the majority of responibility for how they turned out.
Originally posted by Asktheanimals
reply to post by Thunder heart woman
Wow, That is an amazingly shocking theory but quite plausible.
I didn't want to learn that much about his father actually, he just seemed like an emotional deadbeat.
His father's neglect may have had a role in this.
Originally posted by Asktheanimals
reply to post by Thunder heart woman
Wow, That is an amazingly shocking theory but quite plausible.
I didn't want to learn that much about his father actually, he just seemed like an emotional deadbeat.
His father's neglect may have had a role in this.
Originally posted by broctune
If the official story is accurate, it's ridiculous to think some of the blame doesn't fall on Nancy Lanza. How can a responsible adult give access to all those weapons to a mentally unstable kid? She should have had them locked in a gun safe.
Originally posted by Thunder heart woman
reply to post by TheCanuckian
We don't KNOW who Nancy Lanza was. We only know what we are told by the MSM. And the MSM are notorious liars.
She is not alive to talk, or defend herself. We have no idea at all what went on in her personal life on a day to day basis. We have no idea what kind of a mother she was. She's dead, so she can't tell us.
Originally posted by WanDash
There are plausible explanations that could exonerate Ms. Lanza of this "blame"...
She could have had them in a gun safe...locked...and could have been both diligent & stealthy at keeping the key/s hidden...and her son (or others, for that matter) might still have found a way to get them.
Then again - as has been repeated numerous times in other threads...we still don't have "the Official Story".
Originally posted by Brocade
Shriver has an agenda of her own to push...
I also have a question about American law and this seems like a suitable place to ask it. I realise there are many different theories about what happened. But assuming that Adam Lanza did indeed simply take his mother's guns and commit the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School, would Nancy Lanza have been likely to have faced charges around not keeping her guns securely enough had she not been killed?
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But surely the mere fact that he got them, if that scenario is correct, shows that she wasn't 'diligent & stealthy' enough?
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Originally posted by Wertdagf
reply to post by manmental
Then that persons mother was to poorly educated to figure out their child was molested. There are people who are specialized in dealing with the abused who can see the the signs of ptsd or emotional trauma. Yet because this mother was to ignorant to protect something she accepted resposiblity for its suddenly someone elses fault.
Somehow ignorance is now a perfect defence for people who would rather drink martinis than talk to their children about the dangers of predators.
Not my fault the baby crawled into the street.... i didnt know i was supposed to watch it.
Originally posted by Brocade
Shriver has an agenda of her own to push, though, and she's doing it here. The insinuation that asking perfectly legitimate questions about how this happened and how it might have been avoided is simply an excuse so that 'one more time, we get to demonise the mother..;
Originally posted by Brocade
...exposes her own agenda, and is imho deeply disrespectful to those who lost loved ones in this terrible event.
Originally posted by Brocade
Shriver reports that 'to date, authorities have not located any confirmed diagnosis for Adam Lanza' then spends two paragraphs arguing that Asperger's is not associated with violence to try to absolve Nancy Lanza of responsibility. But the characteristics of Asperger's are irrelevant if he didn't actually have it, and using them to try to deflect blame when the facts are so very far from known is disingenuous.
Originally posted by Brocade
As Shriver says, 'when the facts don't bolster your viewpoint, you can always make them up,' and she's as guilty of it as those she's castigating.
Originally posted by Brocade
But surely the mere fact that he got them, if that scenario is correct, shows that she wasn't 'diligent & stealthy' enough?
Originally posted by Brocade
My first post, so my apologies if it's misplaced or I've offended anyone, that certainly wasn't my intention!