China Toughens Its Restrictions on Use of the Internet

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posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 09:04 AM
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China Toughens Its Restrictions on Use of the Internet


www.nytimes.com

HONG KONG — The Chinese government issued new rules on Friday requiring Internet users to provide their real names to service providers, while assigning Internet companies greater responsibility for deleting forbidden postings and reporting them to the authorities.
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posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 09:04 AM
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Big brother, here we go.

An increasing number of news organizations, forums and social networks are requiring posters to use their real names or are providing incentives to do so.

The time will come that people in western societies will get charged with thought crimes just for speaking their minds.

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posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 09:13 AM
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This comes as no surprise. The Chinese government has always and continues to keep it's foot on the neck of the people of China. The only reason some people mistakenly believe otherwise is due to them having a better PR strategy in recent years than they had in the past.



posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 09:16 AM
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The time will come that people in western societies will get charged with thought crimes just for speaking their minds.


Its already happening here in the UK, and most probably the USA. Ive heard of tons of people being arrested to prevent a breach of the peace, or for saying things people didnt like.



posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 10:18 AM
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Originally posted by AmberLeaf
Its already happening here in the UK, and most probably the USA. Ive heard of tons of people being arrested to prevent a breach of the peace, or for saying things people didnt like.


Go on, give a couple of examples, because I have heard of a handful (not tons). Some people have been arrested for posting obnoxious, hate-filled and / or anti-social material designed to offend. Quite right too. They would get arrested for doing so if they did it in a public park (if they were not beaten up beforehand by irate members of the public), so are just stupid to think they will get away with on FaceBook.

The difference between liberal western democracies and places like China are significant. You cannot compare the two and trying to do so is silly and seriously understates the level of control places like China have over their populations.

Regards



posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 10:22 AM
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YOu know the irony? The catch to all this is that so few people actually USE that right. People are so shy and barren inside that even taking this freedom away has little impact on things.

See, freedoms aren't removed until they've long been strained and underutilized.

Our humanity and diversity won't die with a thundering outburst, but with a whimper. And when it's a whimper, it's so easily ignored. And so the masses can continue on without break.

Maybe we deserve it.

It's not the New World Order, it's the New World Machine. Always was.

We're in various stages of becoming machines. It's our destiny. One can better understand this by contemplating the vast gap between society and individual. Without our libraries and teachers and the sum of history relayed to us as children, we would be lost and a king without his clothes. As the rules pile up the demands on our brain to follow them will increase. With each new rule a piece of the individual dies. Rules are a pressure and those who fall behind or slow will be swept away.

Will we become eusocial? It seems a strong possibility. The individual mind shrinks as our history grows. Our mind doesn't keep pace with the complexity. The result is we're unable to do more than a few things, at best. This means that we specialize; laborer, builder, reproducer, farmer, scientist, etc. The society becomes so great that following its rules is the dominant evolutionary pressure. So rather than go our own way on a whim, we will increasingly follow society's rules instead.

A shard of hope inside me believes that you cannot kill our need for freedom. You can win a few battles, but the war is forever. We will always find the cracks and freedom will somehow survive. The desire in us is instinctive. Perhaps nature shakes the boat every so often, intentionally. This makes sense to me. You should never put all your eggs in one basket. Nature knows this. This knowledge is passed down to us in the form of those who (few or many) struggle for the cause of freedom.

But there's every possibility we will still end up as a (comparatively) smart yet eusocial species.
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posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 10:48 AM
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from BBC news on this

"In recent months, the internet and social media have been used to orchestrate mass protests and a number of corrupt Communist Party officials have been exposed by individuals posting criticisms on the internet."


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i see this as a good thing, china doesn't? wtf sounds like they are just trying to zip up everyone mouths to they can continue being corrupted.


if this works i can see other countries following, which is not going to be good for us



posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 02:52 PM
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My spam filter appliance will be violated less at work. No, wait... I disabled all foreign countries via url regex's and IP address reverse look up. I swear, more damn attacks come from China than any place. Lock em down I say.



posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by WhereIsTheBatman

China Toughens Its Restrictions on Use of the Internet


The time will come that people in western societies will get charged with thought crimes just for speaking their minds.



China toughens it's restrictions and western societies are the potential victims here?


Ah man.

ATS...



posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 03:21 PM
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Um, sorry, but. . . er. . . um. . . aren't they communists?

Why is anyone surprised?



posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 03:26 PM
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This isn't surprising in the least. But at least can use online names when posting according to the article others will see your posts using your online name. Only the site owners will know your true information. Personally I don't object to this, it might cut down my time on the internet though.



posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 10:39 PM
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Poor Chinese.

And they thought that producing Western Goods, meant having the same freedoms as the West.........



When will those who were barking that The Chinese were becoming a "tolerant" Country?

I await their responses.......
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posted on Dec, 28 2012 @ 11:44 PM
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Great thread OP.
Western companies have relocated from the USA, Britain, Australia, Canada ect ect left millions unemployed.
They have virtual slaves working for them in China.
The chinese don't care about democracy.
Once you understand that you should then realise how corrupt the western companies are.



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 12:10 AM
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China is simply looking to be invade and seeking trouble.

Their wishes will one day be fulfilled and realized.




posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 12:13 AM
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Originally posted by OrionsWitness
They have virtual slaves working for them in China.

Once you understand that you should then realise how corrupt the western companies are.


You know, I see your point but what is always left out is how the Chinese Government plays its role in all of this. Which controls 51% interest in how those corrupt western companies in China are allowed to use the Chinese assets I mean, resources oops, sorry there I go again, I meant those "virtual" Chinese slaves

Go China!
Raw Raw Raw



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 12:31 AM
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It appears that there has already been similar laws in western countries including the US, Canada and Japan. However, the Party should device new ways to report corruption on the Internet to protect the identity of the witnesses.

By the way, this also means the Chinese government can now arrest spammers once they have been reported!

Source (pro-Beijing newspaper): paper.wenweipo.com...
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posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 12:45 AM
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No one sane is saying the Chinese do not exploit their teeming millions, that they haven't murdered approx eight times the population of Canada , in the name of Mao.
But the same murderous spirit exists in China and the minds of sociopaths who happen to be mult i milllionares and billionares via sociopathic advantage. ie not caring about those you trample on.
Be they Chinese or Western.



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 12:57 AM
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You are using apples and oranges to show your non existent point. Are you really trying to apply western "freedoms" to a communistic dictatorship like it will set off a chain reaction throughout the globe?
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posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 02:23 AM
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Its sad. However a big part of so-called free world has no moral right to officialy criticise them. Various "hurt feelings" laws and similar BS restricting freedom of speech have multiplied like mushrooms after rain even in the west.

In my opinion, relying on politicians to protect freedom of speech is doomed to fail sooner or later. We must rely on physics instead, with optical fibre it could be possible to have completely safe communication using quantum encryption. I wonder if that is realistic?



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 03:47 AM
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from now..Shall we get the real name of our Chinese users





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