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Originally posted by Trexter Ziam
Originally posted by Mystery_Lady
Do not resist an evil person.
As in "Don't Feed the Trolls" - especially the ones who start threads like this.
Originally posted by Dan001
My belief is that cats can teach us everything about socializing.
Simply observe their raw, untamed attitudes towards each other.
And you will see that it is OKAY to lash at somebody when it is called for.
Yes, it's true: We can sometimes enable someone's bad attitude by supporting them unconditionally.
Sometimes love is not the solution.
I'm not promoting hate, either.
Originally posted by Mystery_Lady
Then you misread the Bible. There are those who say Jesus said an eye for and eye and a tooth for a tooth. That is taken way out of context. What Jesus said You have heard that it was said an eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth.
Originally posted by Mystery_Lady
He showed the people what it was to truly love.
Originally posted by Mystery_Lady
Some people can become so independent that they will refuse any help even when it is needed.
Originally posted by Mystery_Lady
Which society would more easily fall into a collectivism controlled environment? A society where people worked as a group, trust in each other, and gain strength in bonds they created with each other? Or a society that is aloof with each other because they are more concerned about themselves than anything else, their idea of help actually pushes people away from each other, and hardly any bonds are created between people? I say a society were people push each other away as in the one you suggested in your opening post.
Originally posted by Mystery_Lady
A group that has bonded together, that doesn't force people to conform, and doesn't use their force to over power others is even stronger.
Originally posted by Mystery_Lady
I help people, and others have helped me as it should be. Giving hearts and giving souls are strong.
Originally posted by Mystery_Lady
Why do you think being dependant equals freeloading?
Originally posted by Mystery_Lady
Sometimes much easier said than done, especially when you didn't start it in the first place.
Originally posted by Mystery_Lady
No, that person finally woke up to reality.
It's not surprising. Unpopular perspectives are more likely to get more responses since people would like to know the reasoning behind it.
Ironically, people are just jumping in the thread just basically saying "it is bad just to care about yourself!" which obviously proves they did not read the original post...
Meh.
Originally posted by Murgatroid
On the PLUS side:
You ditched what must have been one of the most ANNOYING avatars in the history ATS.
THANK YOU!!!
I KNOW mine sucks as well...
Originally posted by AthlonSavage
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I think the posters have been fair. Your arguments didnt stand up well. The reflection in the mirror was not a rose.
edit on 28-12-2012 by AthlonSavage because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Murgatroid
So WHAT does ATS think about being more conceited & self-interested...
Four pages, two flags & two stars.
Says it ALL right there....
Originally posted by Bluesma
What it says to me is that many people pay a lot more attention to the way something is worded,
than to the concept within.
Words carry emotional charges and association,
that can deviate the rational mind.
Originally posted by Bluesma
Arpgme, IMO, often comes up with topics that might be interesting points of discussion,
provocative essentially because he gets into dual thought,
interesting because he attempts to escape them (trying to see light in the dark good in the bad positive in the negative....)
Originally posted by Bluesma
Keeping someone dependant (trough aiding them too much) can be done for very very selfish reasons! Primarily, to retain power over that individual. (in latin cultures, I noticed this is the norm for mothers, to keep a strong illegit power over their offspring even as adults.)
Originally posted by Bluesma
Refusing to reflect to a person their own behavior can also be done for very selfish reasons
And yet you STILL didn't show the ILLOGICALNESS of my arguments. I'm starting to think this is an emotional reaction, you just don't like it but can't disprove my logic so you attack it by calling it "twisted" without actually disproving it.
How did I know that you would not respond with anything useful to this discussion, and that you would avoid proving the illogicalness of what I said instead of just talking about it?
I am not forcing anyone to walk anywhere. I am just expressing my view point. It is up to the individual as to whether they will accept it or not.
All I am asking you is to do is to support your claims. You calmed that it was "twisted" logic, and you still failed to show any evidence of that. All you did was criticize the view points as a "web" and "twisted logic" but you did not demonstrate it.
Originally posted by AthlonSavage
And i expressed my point of view in response that you spin a tangled web of twisted mind logic.
Originally posted by AthlonSavage.
All i have to do to demonstrate it is to ask a person (not you) to go and read through all of this thread. Most people will at the end; as is indicated through the postings do not side with you beliefs
Originally posted by SplitInfinity
reply to post by arpgme
...everyone at some time needs a helping hand. One cannot go through life in a vacuum and to attempt to do so is self defeating.
Disagreement does NOT equal twisted logic. You would have to explain WHY it is twisted logic.
To say that it must be twisted logic because people do not agree - is actually a logical fallacy called