reply to post by arpgme
Then you misread the Bible. There are those who say Jesus said an eye for and eye and a tooth for a tooth. That is taken way out of context. What
Jesus said You have heard that it was said an eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth.
The eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth mentaility was practiced way before Jesus came onto the scene. His message to do the exact oppsite was
radical, had heads scratching, and probablly offensive to some. They were life changing, and breathed a new life into society. He showed the people
what it was to truly love.
He actually practiced what he preached. He never attacked or denfended himself from the time he was arrested to the time he died on the cross. He
never said a mean word, but took the punches, hair pulling, crown of thorns, the whip, abuse, and more. Technically what was done to him no man should
have survived, and there were several times he should have died before he got to the cross.
Helping a person to be independent when they can do so is good. What about all the people for whatever reason can not become independent? As a
species, we need each other to survive. Being independent is good to a point. We still and always will need others. We can not do everything by
ourselves. Some people can become so independent that they will refuse any help even when it is needed. They would let the problem go and get worse
rather than accepting help. Your opening post it really sounded you were taking it to the other extreme, to let the problem go and help only after it
Which society would more easily fall into a collectivism controlled environment? A society where people worked as a group, trust in each other, and
gain strength in bonds they created with each other? Or a society that is aloof with each other because they are more concerned about themselves than
anything else, their idea of help actually pushes people away from each other, and hardly any bonds are created between people? I say a society were
people push each other away as in the one you suggested in your opening post.
A group that has bonded together, that doesn't force people to conform, and doesn't use their force to over power others is even stronger.
I'm glad I don't know the type of reality you live in. In my reality, people don't attack each other in the name of love, or not help each other in
the name of love. I wouldn't have it any other way. I help people, and others have helped me as it should be. Giving hearts and giving souls are
I have been attacked, done nothing, and forgiven many a time. I have seen the heart and mind changed. Have you ever witnessed that?
Why do you think being dependant equals freeloading?
"Easy, do not attack and you there will be no retaliation."
Sometimes much easier said than done, especially when you didn't start it in the first place.
"Well then that person fell back asleep from reality."
No, that person finally woke up to reality.