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Originally posted by 1/2 Nephilim
Its this type of thinking that has turned me into a hobbyist.
I have worked alot of jobs. Some payed better than others, some I have enjoyed more than others but I have never had a JOB or WORK that I fully enjoyed. I mean jobs that have been easy, good money for little simple work.. its still selling your time and your time is priceless.
Working on the carnival for a few years spoiled me, I saw how easy it was to make money if your only willing to be a little deceptional. I drank while I was doing it so my moral compass was off but at the end of one season I quit drinking and couldn't go back to doing it, mustless a sucker job that I would dislike even more than that for much less money..
Its all about figuring out what you like doing that can be lucrative.
Luckily I have found a few of those types of hobbies. Work is for slaves, jobs are for sheep and if someone wants to reply "but I have to feed my kids!" yeah, because your a slave to your own responsibilities that you didn't think out beforehand.
Originally posted by ANOK
By work you mean working a "job".
Jobs are an artificial construct of capitalism. Capitalism started when land owners changed the laws so that people could not use the land to live off, so they were forced to work "jobs" supplied by the land owners, making the land owners rich from exploiting labour.
Basically the land owners took away the autonomy of none-land owners.
Originally posted by Trexter Ziam
It's perspective, point of view.
Washing dishes is pleasurable ... silky bubbles, a nice window to gaze through and watch the birds play ... all while playing fork talks to spoon games.
Getting back to "work" on a Monday morning is much more pleasurable than the weekend spent under the car!
Getting back from that strenuous, exhausting, frustrating, hectic, schedule-induced, muscle-twisting, anxiety-ridden VACATION and back to the old grind ... pleasurable.
Work - means non-pleasurable.
Leisure - means pleasurable.
Originally posted by Tadeusz
So grinding on a video game would fall under work if it was not pleasurable. Right?
Originally posted by grainofsand
To me it's pretty simple:
Work is anything I need to do to prolong/sustain my life.
Leisure is anything that I enjoy for the sake of enjoyment.
Preparing my sandwiches in the morning is 'work' but cooking a fish on the beach is 'leisure'.
If I lived a subsistence hunter-gatherer lifestyle then catching that fish would probably be considered 'work'.