It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
The term was applied, then as now, to weapons that were not specifically designed for military use and were not employed in a military capacity. Thus, the most natural reading of “keep Arms” in the Second Amendment is to “have weapons.” At the time of the founding, as now, to “bear” meant to “carry.” In numerous instances, “bear arms” was unambiguously used to refer to the carrying of weapons outside of an organized militia. Nine state constitutional provisions written in the 18th century or the first two decades of the 19th, which enshrined a right of citizens “bear arms in defense of themselves and the state” again, in the most analogous linguistic context—that “bear arms” was not limited to the carrying of arms in a militia.
Originally posted by redbarron626
The 2nd Amendment, although not precisely defined, usually applies to firearms ie. Handguns, Rifles, Shotguns, Swords, Knives, etc.
When the 2nd amendment was written, there were no nuclear weapons so they are not covered.
While they did have certain "biological" weapons, these are also not covered by the 2nd.
edit on 27-12-2012 by redbarron626 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by dc4lifeskater
I do not support bear arms.. bears need their arms for climbing, fishing, scratching, whatnot, and soforth!
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
Originally posted by Lonewulph
It was written in regard to 'arms' at the time...Projectile firing weapons and swords.
reply to post by angrysniper
No, the 2nd amendment does not make any distinction about what sort of arms. One would interpret that they were referring to the arms used at the time, which would include firearms and cannons.
Originally posted by Maxatoria
Now as a Brit I know you guys have the right to bear arms but what actually does constitute an armament does it include chemical/biological/nuclear or is there a limit under the 2nd amendment? as like a lot of people while i try and join in certain threads i'd like to know the upper and lower limits so as not to make an idiot of one selfedit on 27-12-2012 by Maxatoria because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by redbarron626
reply to post by angrysniper
No, the 2nd amendment does not make any distinction about what sort of arms. One would interpret that they were referring to the arms used at the time, which would include firearms and cannons.
Hence the statement I made,"although not precisely defined"
What part of not precisely defined do YOU not understand?
Or are you just trying to confuse the OP more?
I was responding to you using the phrase 'are not covered.'
Originally posted by boncho
Personally, I don't believe the US has come anywhere close to "A police state" as many would like to portray on the internet. Rife with inequality sure, unfair and unjust in many cases? Absolutely. Not the point where any use of arms by the citizen is justified. I think many on the net who claim they are fighting for their rights do an injustice unto themselves. For now, the changes in government and rule has all been done by political means. In some cases, corrupt political means.