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Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it.
-- Edmund Burke (1729-1797)
Im quite successful in my career, but not because of anything I learned in school. Everything I know I learned by doing it. You learn much more thoroughly by experience, by actually doing and applying stuff than you do by mere reading about things in books. You cant truly learn how to operate an airplane from a book.
Originally posted by adjensen
it was against the law to teach slaves to read
mathematics plays a critical role, not simply in real life, but in training the brain for other studies, such as science, art or music.
I find it ironic that we hear "education is indoctrination"
I would suggest that this last statement not be tested by grabbing an average person off the street, throwing them in a cockpit and telling them to fly to Kalamazoo.
Learning by doing is great, but if you take an eight year old at toss them in a factory as a machine operator the result is more likely to be a maimed child.
Public education in the United States is likely the number one cause that resulted in molding our country into a success such as the world has never seen
Teaching children to read is one of the worthwhile things public school does. But as already shown, thats about all it does because the children then spend the next 12+ years sitting there reading when they should instead also be speaking, thinking, drawing, moving, creating!
For instance, every one of us will go into relationships later in life, but so many are utterly clueless how to handle all the emotions, responsibilities, chemistry, sexuality and questions regarding relationships because school acts as if the subject does not exist.
You see...thats the hallmark of passive-learning, of indoctrination, of dumbing-students-down: Instead of... exploring, extrapolating, experimenting, exciting, excelling students are mostly (80% of the time) expected to memorize stuff in their short-term memory for use in tests and exams.
Inquiry-based instruction is a student-centered and teacher-guided instructional approach that engages students in investigating real world questions that they choose within a broad thematic framework. Inquiry-Based instruction complements traditional instruction by providing a vehicle for extending and applying the learning of students in a way that connects with their interests within a broader thematic framework. Students acquire and analyze information, develop and support propositions, provide solutions, and design technology and arts products that demonstrate their thinking and make their learning visible. (Source)
Problem-based learning (PBL) is focused experiential learning organized around the investigation and resolution of messy, real-world problems.
PBL engages students as stakeholders immersed in a messy, ill-structured, problematic situation.
PBL organizes curriculum around this holistic problem, enabling student learning in relevant and connected ways.
PBL creates a learning environment in which teachers coach student thinking and guide student inquiry, facilitating learning toward deeper levels of understanding while entering the inquiry as a co-investigator. (Source)
Discovery learning is a powerful instructional approach that guides and motivates learners to explore information and concepts in order to construct new ideas, identify new relationships and create new models of thinking and behavior.
Well-designed discovery learning educational sessions are highly experiential and interactive — using stories, games, simulations, visual maps and other techniques to grab attention, build interest and lead a journey of discovery toward new thinking, actions and behaviors. (Source)
Originally posted by adjensen
my middle and high schools offered classes in speech, debate, art, physical fitness and creative writing.
Is it really the providence of schools to completely supplant the family as the source of emotional development?
covered sexuality (in a broad, generally inoffensive manner,) during heath class.
rote memorization is a proven technique for building those fundamental knowledge blocks upon which advanced learning is laid
Inquiry-based learning, Problem-based learning, Discovery Learning
Finally, from a practical standpoint, high school dropouts earn considerably less than those who finish school, demonstrating, clearly, that public education is not a waste of time, certainly not from an economic standpoint.
Public schools are wasting your childrens time ladies and gentlemen. Homeschooling and Private Schools outperform public schools.
This one goes to Adjensen.
Skyfloating brings up some wonderful points during closing which I feel needed more emphasis early on. Some of the points related to personal experience just didn't have the same far reaching impact as the later argument. I believe the pro position was a little disadvantaged from the start having such a strong argument to justify.
Adjensen played fairly solid (though harsh sometimes!) debate. It's a shame that this particular debate didn't get warm until later rounds. Would have really liked to see Skyfloating's responses to Adjensen's closing.
Both opening statements leave me wondering, as both debaters share their opinions as facts. Skyfloating comes out with opinions and percentages that seem exaggerated while Adjensen provides his side of the debate with an interesting historical summary of education but followed by rebuttals that also seem to push the envelope a little too far. Hard to judge these openings and I decided to leave it at a tie.
In the second round, Skyfloating comes back on certain points with different opinions and could have taken that round except that, this time, his opponent comes back with excellent rebuttals and a strong final punch - the economic standpoint. This round is Adjensen’s.
The third round sees Skyfloating at his best. He is still on track with his opinions to further strengthen his side of the debate and provides factual information that is hard to avoid. However, Adjensen also shows his best. He is still coherent in his final post, sticks to his topic and sums it all up efficiently. This final round is, once more, a tie.
In this debate, my opinion hasn’t been swayed one way or another. Both debaters did well but Adjensen, having taken the second round in a very very tight match, wins this debate. Thank you to both debaters for an interesting read.