Obama pushing an assault weapons ban?!?!? Ha, what a joke freedom has become in this country post 9/11 with the patriot act, NDAA, etc. Have we forgot that one of the worst shootings in our nations history, that arguably started it all (Columbine), happened during the Clinton era assault weapons ban?? I agree with some that assault rifles are not particularly needed for self defense. But that is not why most people own them. A good friend summed it up pretty well, that the 2nd Amendment's purpose in not solely for self defense, but to arm the citizens of America and protect against an overpowering and tyrannical government. Have we forget the terms upon which our nation was created, and the principles bestowed by our founding fathers? We should all be students of history and learn from the past. A ban on assault weapons and high capacity magazines will NOT deter future acts of senseless violence. The problem lies within our society and the violent nature of the American culture. This is the root of our problem. Not assault weapons. Not high capacity magazines.

Just a rant of my 2 cents. Feel free to share your opinions, this is obviously a very controversial topic.

But haven't you heard?

We live in a wonderful utopia. The government would never go against the will of the citizens. That's just unthinkable!

The 2nd Amendment is an ancient relic now that we can put all faith & trust in the US Govt. We should get rid of that relic and round up all the guns because they're obviously the problem here. I swear, owning a gun turns you into a psychotic spree-killer, I mean just look at Sandy Hook, and Aurora, and Virginia Tech, and Columbine, all happened because of guns...


(S&F for you. Most people who are for banning guns obviously did not pay attention in History class and seem to have the mindset like the one I posted above...)

Your input is appreciated but is a new thread on this subject (without a meaningful or unique contribution) really necessary?

Originally posted by CosmicCitizen
Your input is appreciated but is a new thread on this subject (without a meaningful or unique contribution) really necessary?

Haha I love these unnecessary posts complaining about unnecessary posts!!!

Re OP your post is necessary. Without people standing up for their self-evident right to protect themselves, people who don't have your interest at heart will subjugate you.

Just read a history book.

For what its worth, if i have a slingshot and a pocket full of marbles, I think I could do damage that would surpass what the average US Citizen would do with a Glock or Sig Sauer p226. All without a peep being made outside the snap of the rubber.

Same can be said with a lead pipe. Any idea how many people one could lay to waste with a lead pipe that has a leather strap handle on it? Swing it, and everything it touches will shatter.

We won't even get into my the crossbow I have. The damage a cross bow does, along with its silence, make it an outstanding clandestine weapon. I have been known to hunt vermin with a crossbow.

Great point on Columbine, and those were kids...

I like your post. Like what the thread title stands for. I feel like that is a big problem in this country, making policies for all based on fear of how the lowest common denominator will use their freedom. It is the exact same way with the vice and drug war where they assume the worst of madness and addiction and ignore the mountains of anecdotal reports of people using in moderation, legislating out of pure paranoia. That is where I see our beloved media trying to push the gun debate.

If we used this type of logic with driving laws we would not let anyone drive because of the low % of people who kill themselves and others with cars through means of DWIs, recklessness, speeding, etc. It would be ridiculous, and mind you we lose hundreds of thousands due to cars every year...

But cars have a function and guns do not you say? BS! Since when is protecting your home, self and family anything but the most important thing in a world like this? Yes this place is usually good but when it goes bad, it goes real bad, and it happens often enough that it is better to be vigilant. Even if they never need a gun, it brings peace of mind to owners to know they have one. And God forbid someone does attempt to steal from or harm or kill them, well, "It's better to have one and not need one than to need one and not have one." No doubt about it guns rights will always serve a very important function for as long as guns exist.

Putting guns in a black market only situation is a lose-lose for literally everyone except criminals and totalitarians.