Question regarding Methane Gas and plane incidents.

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posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 03:06 PM
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So I have noticed from time to time that on RSOE EDIS there will all of a sudden be plane crashes.

hisz.rsoe.hu...

However I never really see them scatter throughout days. They appear to be all at one time.

Do they update this instantly? Or is the data taken in and then added all in one day?



Could these plane crashes be related to Methane gas?




posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 03:10 PM
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No. Methane gas is heavier than air so it has no way to get to an altitude that would effect an aircraft, unless it was flying very low.



posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by JIMC5499
No. Methane gas is heavier than air so it has no way to get to an altitude that would effect an aircraft, unless it was flying very low.


Thats not true, it is lighter than air. Propane on the other hand, is heavier than air.

Theyve even considered methane releases could be responsible for ships and planes going missing
in the Bermuda Triangle.
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posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 03:31 PM
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I noticed this myself here recently and commented in another thread about how aircraft accidents seem to be heavily covered recently at RSOE. Today for instance, I count 28 reports of reported aircraft incidents in recent days. At the same time, their data shows 10 Injuries. A couple of those were doubled on single incidents.

So the majority don't even have someone hurt. I'm guessing that RSOE recently got a better feed for FAA incident reporting and this is the example of using a resource like RSOE with real strong judgement applied.

They are priceless to a researcher and news hound .....Or they are the ultimate nightmare of Doom Porn for the paranoid. I'd say they are good enough at what they do for a specialty there, they can serve either direction depending on the mindset of the reader. I hope most of us are researchers and news hounds.


(Personally, I'm thinking hard about just closing that Tab on the RSOE display entirely. It's not like I'll need that source to tell me if there is a major air accident. It'd take a hermit on an island not to know when one happens)



posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by JIMC5499
No. Methane gas is heavier than air so it has no way to get to an altitude that would effect an aircraft, unless it was flying very low.


That's not right, Methane is carried as high as the stratosphere by rising air from the tropics, from there it can circulate laterally.

The actual theory about aircraft and Methane, (say the Bermuda triangle) is that an aircraft could explode by its engines igniting the Methane. Other theories are that the Methane could stall an engine, but I'm not sure about that scenario.



posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 03:35 PM
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Other theories are that the Methane could stall an engine, but I'm not sure about that scenario.


Well yes, it does make sense (even if its highly unlikely) If the methane concentrations were thick enough, it would starve the engine of oxygen needed for combustion, making it stall.
Like I said, unlikely but thats the theory thats been proposed.

And the theory about it causing ships to sink is that as the methane bubbles up under the ship, it loses its buoyancy and sinks, which to me makes more sense than the plane scenario.
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posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 03:42 PM
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Originally posted by Juggernog
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Other theories are that the Methane could stall an engine, but I'm not sure about that scenario.


Well yes, it does make sense (even if its highly unlikely) If the methane concentrations were thick enough, it would starve the engine of oxygen needed for combustion, making it stall.
Like I said, unlikely but thats the theory thats been proposed.


Yes, that's the way I was thinking, the exploding plane is more likely, though both ideas are just that, ideas.
The sinking ship, is less of a theory, as experiments show that the Methane could sink ships.



posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 03:50 PM
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The sinking ship, is less of a theory, as experiments show that the Methane could sink ships.


Yea youre right, ive seen them do it on some shows but I meant it being a theory on the ships disappearing in the triangle

here is one clip.. the only problem is that its not happening fast enough for a ship not to be able to get off a mayday call.




posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 04:02 PM
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If fires are sparking from methane gas, Much like the Texas car fires, electricity poles and people catching fire.

Could some of these not be related to methane if the methane is at ground levels?



posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 04:09 PM
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Has there ever been a case of a fire or explosion being triggered by the natural build up of methane seeping from sewers?
I cant recall any myself but there are many cases of entire blocks being destroyed by natural gas seeping from
a broken underground pipe leaking through the sewer system.
One that comes to mind was in Mexico I believe.
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posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by Juggernog
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Has there ever been a case of a fire or explosion being triggered by the natural build up of methane seeping from sewers?
I cant recall any myself but there are many cases of entire blocks being destroyed by natural gas seeping from
a broken underground pipe leaking through the sewer system.
One that comes to mind was in Mexico I believe.
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There have been such explosions on pig farms in the US I think, some kind of foam used for trapping the active bacteria farts now and then also seems to make a spark available. Who said pigs can't fly?



posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 05:05 PM
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Lol. well at least the farmers could recoup their losses by holding a BBQ



posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 05:43 PM
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Both hydrogen sulfide gas and methane are pluming into the atmosphere and causing these mysterious fires, explosions and sonic booms. Yes, planes, cars, boats, RV’s, semi’s and chemical plants are all suffering from unexplained fires.

I have a thread going here that explains a lot of this in great detail.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

What we are having is a global event where anoxic waters around the planet are causing these deadly gas plumes. The ozone layer is being reacted away from these plumes, which is causing a severe rise in UV radiation on the planet which is causing mutations, weather anomalies, animal die-offs, explosions and more.
Here is a brief explanation of how it works. Oxygen is being depleted at deeper levels of the oceans and this is caused by several factors such as stagnation, density stratification, inputs of organic material and strong thermoclines. This is a process that’s happened throughout history, but at present, there has been an acceleration which has been discussed in my thread. It basically means that the already anoxic waters have become even more anoxic, especially in the Gulf where the waters are heated up and that heated water traveled around Florida and up to the East Coast. The release of these gases – hydrogen sulfide (heavier-than-air gas) and methane (lighter-than-air) are causing the heating up of the atmosphere and in turn, heats up the world’s waters. There are many different documented examples of this throughout the thread. The hydrogen sulfide plumes rise in the atmosphere and carry to distances over land and then, because it is heavier than air, settles back to the surface and settles in low-lying areas. Methane is lighter and settles high in the atmosphere.

This cycle is dangerously growing and repeating because the hydrogen sulfide is eating away the hydroxyl radicals and ozone. The hydroxyl radicals are what normally keeps the methane levels at bay in the atmosphere, and now the resulting methane plumes will last longer, enhancing the oceanic heating and in turn, causing more hydrogen sulfide plumes, making methane last longer, and the cycle keeps going and increasing rapidly.

Hydrogen sulfide and methane are highly flammable and interacting in a deadly way with us in our cars, boats, planes, homes, chemical plants, motorcycles, jet skis, businesses and ammo plants causing an increase in fires and explosions all over the planet.

Read the thread, find out more.

Also here is a link to the Jumping Jack Flash hypothesis where I have based my thread on

Jumping Jack Flash Hypothesis



posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 05:57 PM
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NOTAM along the lines of natural gas...must be some concern



FDC 2/2332 ZLC ID.. FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS 1 1/2 MILES SOUTH OF HANSEN, ID. EFFECTIVE 1212071930 UTC UNTIL 1212072300 UTC. PURSUANT TO 14 CFR SECTION 91.137(A)(1) TEMPORARY FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS ARE IN EFFECT FOR NATURAL GAS VENTING ONLY RELIEF AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS
UNDER DIRECTION OF WILLIAMS NORTHWEST PIPELINE ARE AUTHORIZED IN THE AIRSPACE AT AND BELOW 6500 FEET MSL WITHIN A 2 NAUTICAL MILE RADIUS OF 423028N/1141818W OR THE TWIN FALLS /TWF/ VORTAC 060 DEGREE RADIAL AT 8.3 NAUTICAL MILES WILLIAMS NORTHWEST PIPELINE TELEPHONE 208-317-5864 IS IN CHARGE OF ON SCENE EMERGENCY RESPONSE ACTIVITY. SALT LAKE /ZLC/ ARTCC TELEPHONE 801-320-2560 IS THE FAA COORDINATION FACILITY.

tfr.faa.gov...



posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 06:08 PM
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Originally posted by JrDavis
So I have noticed from time to time that on RSOE EDIS there will all of a sudden be plane crashes.

hisz.rsoe.hu...

However I never really see them scatter throughout days. They appear to be all at one time.

Do they update this instantly? Or is the data taken in and then added all in one day?



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