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reply posted on 26-12-2012 @ 02:39 PM by hypattia
reply to post by seabag



Yes, that is what I was saying. My ideal would be a forum where logic and some kind of documentation would be asked for to discuss said outrageous/controversial theories. I only contribute if I have some kind of reliable information. I just read and research what is theorized. Just because it's controversial doesn't make some theories untrue, or true.
I don't know where to go to discuss controversial theories, responsibly, compassionately, logically and openly.


reply posted on 26-12-2012 @ 02:42 PM by seabag
reply to post by olaru12



The MSM is a for profit enterprise just like ATS. The networks have rooms full of people trying to figure out how to get better ratings than the competition; thus sell more advertising. Capitalism at it's finest. Give the audience what they want. Doing business the American way; catering to a confederacy of dunces.


ATS isn’t a mainstream news site per se.

Members of ATS cannot contribute “news” on ABC’s website. We are not professional journalists nor are we bound by their ethical code. There is a certain expectation of reliability and truthfulness from the MSM. As I said, we expect truth from them rather than speculation, sensationalism and distractions. They used to expect that of themselves.....but not anymore.

Evil capitalism, huh?

Corruption is not inherent to capitalism nor is it any more prevalent…corruption can be found in every form of government and every enterprise.



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reply posted on 26-12-2012 @ 02:46 PM by olaru12
Originally posted by seabag
reply to
post by olaru12



The MSM is a for profit enterprise just like ATS. The networks have rooms full of people trying to figure out how to get better ratings than the competition; thus sell more advertising. Capitalism at it's finest. Give the audience what they want. Doing business the American way; catering to a confederacy of dunces.


ATS isn’t a mainstream news site per se.

Members of ATS cannot contribute “news” on ABC’s website. We are not professional journalists nor are we bound by their ethical code. There is a certain expectation of reliability and truthfulness from the MSM. As I said, we expect truth from them rather than speculation, sensationalism and distractions. They used to expect that of themselves.....but not anymore.

Evil capitalism, huh?



Most people can't handle the truth and don't want to hear it anyway, so they get what they want, sensationalism and entertainment. Yeah, business the American way! Ethical code.....

It's a brave new world, 1984 at it's finest and the future looks very strange. Blade runner anyone? Corporate fascism? WalMartopia....
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reply posted on 26-12-2012 @ 03:02 PM by hypattia
Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
Originally posted by hypattia
I was referring to the MAINSTREAM MEDIA, not ATS.

Which are also independent companies under no obligation to enforce or practice free speech.


I was referring to the MAINSTREAM MEDIA'S obligation to the public thru it's Ethics and Standards:
en.wikipedia.org...

Journalism ethics and standards comprise principles of ethics and of good practice as applicable to the specific challenges faced by journalists. Historically and currently, this subset of media ethics is widely known to journalists as their professional "code of ethics" or the "canons of journalism".[1] The basic codes and canons commonly appear in statements drafted by both professional journalism associations and individual print, broadcast, and online news organizations.

While various existing codes have some differences, most share common elements including the principles of — truthfulness, accuracy, objectivity, impartiality, fairness and public accountability — as these apply to the acquisition of newsworthy information and its subsequent dissemination to the public.[2][3][4][5]
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reply posted on 26-12-2012 @ 03:03 PM by captaintyinknots
reply to post by FractalChaos13242017



You dont suppose that they are the first to respond because they are accused of censoring thing ad nauseum? That it is in their best interest to call out these accusations, and squash them immediately, as they are damaging to the site?

Or maybe that this is, oh, say, the millionth thread on this subject?


reply posted on 26-12-2012 @ 03:04 PM by seabag
reply to post by olaru12



Most people can't handle the truth; so they get what they want, sensationalism and entertainment. Yeah, business the American way!


I know what you’re saying. The MSM does have an agenda....but it isn’t ratings. Many people today wouldn’t recognize the truth if it bit them; they allow themselves to be disengaged and distracted because its easier (I'm as guilty as anyone). Some people don't want to deal with the truth and the MSM is doing its best to keep the truth from us all. That is a dangerous combination.

This is not an American (or capitalist) phenomenon BTW….have you studied the history of Rome?


reply posted on 26-12-2012 @ 03:06 PM by forgetmenot
reply to post by captaintyinknots



But there's no conspiracy in that... You big party pooper, you!


reply posted on 26-12-2012 @ 03:07 PM by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by forgetmenot
reply to
post by captaintyinknots



But there's no conspiracy in that... You big party pooper, you!


I know, I know, I must be a troll/disinfo agent/shill, since I bring logic to these situations


reply posted on 26-12-2012 @ 03:07 PM by elevatedone
reply to post by intrepid



You're not gonna make it.... you're getting banned at 49,999



reply posted on 26-12-2012 @ 03:09 PM by intrepid
Originally posted by elevatedone
reply to
post by intrepid



You're not gonna make it.... you're getting banned at 49,999


STOP CENSORING ME!!!!




reply posted on 26-12-2012 @ 03:09 PM by FractalChaos13242017
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
reply to
post by FractalChaos13242017



You dont suppose that they are the first to respond because they are accused of censoring thing ad nauseum? That it is in their best interest to call out these accusations, and squash them immediately, as they are damaging to the site?

Or maybe that this is, oh, say, the millionth thread on this subject?


Wait, so there's that many issues with censorship on ATS, that you'd go as far to say that this is the "millionth thread on this subject"?

Ok, I don't even know where to begin with the implications of that statement lol. Lets not go down that rabbit hole. lol


reply posted on 26-12-2012 @ 03:12 PM by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by FractalChaos13242017
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
reply to
post by FractalChaos13242017



You dont suppose that they are the first to respond because they are accused of censoring thing ad nauseum? That it is in their best interest to call out these accusations, and squash them immediately, as they are damaging to the site?

Or maybe that this is, oh, say, the millionth thread on this subject?


Wait, so there's that many issues with censorship on ATS, that you'd go as far to say that this is the "millionth thread on this subject"?

Ok, I don't even know where to begin with the implications of that statement lol. Lets not go down that rabbit hole. lol


SO now accusing one of censorship without understanding what censorship means shows that there is a big issue with it? Every time someone starts a thread on it, it means that they were censored?

Come on now. Just about any time someone gets a post removed for violating TOS, they scream CENSORSHIP! that doesnt make it so.


reply posted on 26-12-2012 @ 03:13 PM by intrepid
reply to post by FractalChaos13242017



Thus the levity. The membership goes through these threads almost weekly. It becomes tedious. Some are ignorant when it comes to the 2nd. Hopefully we can help them with that. Some are intentionally obtuse. Nothing you can do about that.


reply posted on 26-12-2012 @ 03:15 PM by sconner755
reply to post by hypattia



I am considering writing a book on the cancer of the entitlement mentality that seems so prevalent in today's culture. Your post and attitude exemplifies this entitlement mentality perfectly.

Here's an idea.

Go to Godaddy and register a domain name. Get a hosting account. Create a website, and blah, blah, blah your theories until your heart's content.

This is SO's site, not ours. He can run it as he sees fit. You have no "right" to anything to do with posting on this site.
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