Originally posted by smithjustinb
Service to self is good. Ultimately, the self is all there is and ultimately, serving others is serving the self and vice versa.
We all share one consciousness. If you don't believe this, then serving others will seem pointless. But if you take it into consideration for the
remainder of this post, you can see the wisdom in it.
Serving others tries to approach the absolute through the subjective. Being that we are subjective beings, this is a wise approach and one that is
serving to the absolute.
Serving the self tries to approach the absolute through the absolute. By that, I mean, self serving entities believe that they can somehow have an
absolute experience through their individualized human self. The universe doesn't work this way. However, humans work this way. Ants do not. Serving
the self helps with survival, but it is an attitude that, beyond that, doesn't serve the absolute self very well.
In other words, a serving others attitude is much more useful to the absolute. After all, the absolute is split into infinite individuals. Serving
others endows you with the spirit of life.
I can't quite fathom what you mean by 'share one consciousness.' If you mean that we all perceive and remember the same way, I would have to
disagree. Our individual consciousnesses are the result of individual experiences, sensuality and memory. Yes, each human is conscious, insofar as
they can perceive and are awake, but that is not true of all things that are not endowed with nervous systems. If you mean something else you might
have to elaborate, at least, if you would like me to understand what you mean. But for now the dictionary definition of consciousness might have to
I sort of understand what you mean by 'serving the self tries to approach the absolute through the absolute.' But I think that it's a mistake to
assume that that is the only aim. When I serve myself I do it for health, self-mastery, learning the limits of my impression and expression, and to
explore my unique abilities to create or destroy. It is the path of life. Personally, there's no reason to for me to attain anything absolute, as
doing so seems fruitless and unattainable. But even though myself and the ones who self-serve to reach an absolute have a different goal in mind, the
path to reach these goals is fairly similar.
I think the only thing to attain through service to others is a good conscience or a feeling of benevolence. It's nice because it feels good and we
understand the one we are serving also feels good. But feeling good, or feeling happy or making others happy isn't an argument, much like feeling
bad, feeling sad or making others sad isn't an argument. Giving or servitude is a path of appearing righteous, not being righteous, but I completely
agree that in some situations it is entirely necessary.
As an example, it's difficult to find a man who gives to charity who doesn't let everyone know of his charitable deeds. So then I wonder if it is
instead self-service he is after. But when I see someone healthy, strong, intelligent and on a road to self-mastery—not motivated by any greed, but
motivated by life—I see one who can lead and inspire greatness in others, and rather than be a crutch for someone in a worse state, he becomes a
garden of motivation and inspiration.
Charity isn't wanted in most cases, for it always brings a sense of shame (I've worked for the homeless doing outreach). Most want to feel empowered
to be able to do it themselves. So instead of serving them, we must treat them as equal and share not in material things, but knowledge and wisdom.
I am kind of thinking out loud and I agree with what you say. I just find it a difficult to choose one over the other.
Thanks for the well-thought out response.